Comments on: Zack Snyder Hits Back, Says He Made ‘Watchmen’ “To Save It From The Terry Gilliams Of The World” https://staging2.theplaylist.net/zack-snyder-hits-back-says-he-made-watchmen-to-save-it-from-the-terry-gilliams-of-the-world-20140303/ Fri, 13 May 2016 08:00:48 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.2 By: Rex Mundi https://staging2.theplaylist.net/zack-snyder-hits-back-says-he-made-watchmen-to-save-it-from-the-terry-gilliams-of-the-world-20140303/#comment-37296 Fri, 13 May 2016 08:00:48 +0000 http://www.indiewire.com/2014/more/uncategorized/zack-snyder-hits-back-says-he-made-watchmen-to-save-it-from-the-terry-gilliams-of-the-world-88511/#comment-37296 "but took a moment to share their feelings on Silver-Gilliam-Watchmen-gate."

Are you kidding me? Snyder and Silver's disagreement on how to intrepret Watchmen is a scandal on the level of Watergate? Please, stop using "-gate" for everything, it is the sign of an unimaginative hack writer.

]]> By: Guido Pellegrini https://staging2.theplaylist.net/zack-snyder-hits-back-says-he-made-watchmen-to-save-it-from-the-terry-gilliams-of-the-world-20140303/#comment-37318 Fri, 13 May 2016 08:00:48 +0000 http://www.indiewire.com/2014/more/uncategorized/zack-snyder-hits-back-says-he-made-watchmen-to-save-it-from-the-terry-gilliams-of-the-world-88511/#comment-37318 The original comic was certainly a satire. (And much else besides!) I felt Snyder didn't quite capture that, but it's nice to know he's aware of what the comic was aiming at.

]]> By: Brian https://staging2.theplaylist.net/zack-snyder-hits-back-says-he-made-watchmen-to-save-it-from-the-terry-gilliams-of-the-world-20140303/#comment-37289 Fri, 13 May 2016 08:00:48 +0000 http://www.indiewire.com/2014/more/uncategorized/zack-snyder-hits-back-says-he-made-watchmen-to-save-it-from-the-terry-gilliams-of-the-world-88511/#comment-37289 When I first saw Watchmen I was angry at the changes. The extended version helped a bit. Being a huge fan of the graphic novel and Alan Moore, I had standards that were impossible to meet in a feature film. I feel as though the book was admirably paid homage after further viewing. Watchmen is not a "superhero story", it is indeed a satire. Superheroes could not exist in the real world and the story points out the tragedy, depravity, and humor behind the concept given the society of the world. As a director I am a much bigger fan of Gilliam but after reading about the ideas and changes he had in store I am sure I would have hated it. I'm not a huge fan of much of Snyder's work but I think he did well with this movie.

]]> By: Lyte https://staging2.theplaylist.net/zack-snyder-hits-back-says-he-made-watchmen-to-save-it-from-the-terry-gilliams-of-the-world-20140303/#comment-37293 Fri, 13 May 2016 08:00:48 +0000 http://www.indiewire.com/2014/more/uncategorized/zack-snyder-hits-back-says-he-made-watchmen-to-save-it-from-the-terry-gilliams-of-the-world-88511/#comment-37293 I loved his version. Other than missing the squid (was really hoping for that) I think it was an incredible homage to the original work. Anything else would have felt blasphemous.

I own the BluRay of the movie and watch it from time to time. I can't wait to share the book and movie with my son when he's old enough.

]]> By: Stefan https://staging2.theplaylist.net/zack-snyder-hits-back-says-he-made-watchmen-to-save-it-from-the-terry-gilliams-of-the-world-20140303/#comment-37291 Fri, 13 May 2016 08:00:48 +0000 http://www.indiewire.com/2014/more/uncategorized/zack-snyder-hits-back-says-he-made-watchmen-to-save-it-from-the-terry-gilliams-of-the-world-88511/#comment-37291 I really think Snyder should wait until he puts out his equivalent to 'Brazil' before he he starts talking this kind of crap.

]]> By: Jinx https://staging2.theplaylist.net/zack-snyder-hits-back-says-he-made-watchmen-to-save-it-from-the-terry-gilliams-of-the-world-20140303/#comment-37277 Fri, 13 May 2016 08:00:48 +0000 http://www.indiewire.com/2014/more/uncategorized/zack-snyder-hits-back-says-he-made-watchmen-to-save-it-from-the-terry-gilliams-of-the-world-88511/#comment-37277 "in the end, the most important thing with the end was that it tells the story of the graphic novel."
Except it doesn't. In his movie version of the ending, the world would have teamed up on the US and the wars would have continued. The story needed the alien to bring the world together – Dr. Manhattan was an American weapon for decades, his actions in the end of the movie would have been seen as America's fault. The movie asks you to believe that because he destroyed a few American cities, everyone in the world would have forgiven the US for creating, supporting and nurturing Dr. Manhattan. It was a change that didn't need to happen and drastically weakened the plot of the film. In a movie that was so close to a perfect rendition of the comic, this gigantic plothole, introduced for no reason that I can see (other than director hubris, Snyder assuming he could tell Moore's story better than Moore did) made the whole movie a terrible flop.

]]> By: Me https://staging2.theplaylist.net/zack-snyder-hits-back-says-he-made-watchmen-to-save-it-from-the-terry-gilliams-of-the-world-20140303/#comment-37285 Fri, 13 May 2016 08:00:48 +0000 http://www.indiewire.com/2014/more/uncategorized/zack-snyder-hits-back-says-he-made-watchmen-to-save-it-from-the-terry-gilliams-of-the-world-88511/#comment-37285 If The Imaginarium of Dr. Parnassus is any indicator then the movie wouldn't have gotten very much attention if Gilliam had made it. I liked Snyder's interpretation and thought the casting was superb.

]]> By: death metal nightmare https://staging2.theplaylist.net/zack-snyder-hits-back-says-he-made-watchmen-to-save-it-from-the-terry-gilliams-of-the-world-20140303/#comment-37287 Fri, 13 May 2016 08:00:48 +0000 http://www.indiewire.com/2014/more/uncategorized/zack-snyder-hits-back-says-he-made-watchmen-to-save-it-from-the-terry-gilliams-of-the-world-88511/#comment-37287 ask Alan Moore if he gives a f*** what either of these douchebags think about his work. then ask yourself why movies are privileged above all other forms of media. then f*** off.

]]> By: dude https://staging2.theplaylist.net/zack-snyder-hits-back-says-he-made-watchmen-to-save-it-from-the-terry-gilliams-of-the-world-20140303/#comment-37272 Fri, 13 May 2016 08:00:48 +0000 http://www.indiewire.com/2014/more/uncategorized/zack-snyder-hits-back-says-he-made-watchmen-to-save-it-from-the-terry-gilliams-of-the-world-88511/#comment-37272 i thought The Watchmen was pretty awesome.

]]> By: Wgaf https://staging2.theplaylist.net/zack-snyder-hits-back-says-he-made-watchmen-to-save-it-from-the-terry-gilliams-of-the-world-20140303/#comment-37274 Fri, 13 May 2016 08:00:48 +0000 http://www.indiewire.com/2014/more/uncategorized/zack-snyder-hits-back-says-he-made-watchmen-to-save-it-from-the-terry-gilliams-of-the-world-88511/#comment-37274 Two words… Who cares.

]]> By: Clavius https://staging2.theplaylist.net/zack-snyder-hits-back-says-he-made-watchmen-to-save-it-from-the-terry-gilliams-of-the-world-20140303/#comment-37273 Fri, 13 May 2016 08:00:48 +0000 http://www.indiewire.com/2014/more/uncategorized/zack-snyder-hits-back-says-he-made-watchmen-to-save-it-from-the-terry-gilliams-of-the-world-88511/#comment-37273 "….if you read the Gilliam ending, it's completely insane," – Yeah, because your ending was SO much better, wasn't it Zack? To be fair, Watchmen IS pretty damn good, right up until you cut the balls off of the story with your f-ed up ending.

]]> By: Act https://staging2.theplaylist.net/zack-snyder-hits-back-says-he-made-watchmen-to-save-it-from-the-terry-gilliams-of-the-world-20140303/#comment-37279 Fri, 13 May 2016 08:00:48 +0000 http://www.indiewire.com/2014/more/uncategorized/zack-snyder-hits-back-says-he-made-watchmen-to-save-it-from-the-terry-gilliams-of-the-world-88511/#comment-37279 I was with him (as much as I like Gilliam) until he devolved into, "They just didn't understand it's brilliance!" crap. The reason people didn't like the movie isn't because they were too stupid to understand the concept of satire, and such asinine statements make me not want to take anything else he does seriously.

Also, the problem with the movie wasn't the it stuck to the *themes* of the book, but that it didn't make allowances for the change in format. It stuck too closely to the book without considering the changes that were mandated by a change in format, and that ruined it.

The people who refuse to take criticism as always those who need it most.

]]> By: Jamal https://staging2.theplaylist.net/zack-snyder-hits-back-says-he-made-watchmen-to-save-it-from-the-terry-gilliams-of-the-world-20140303/#comment-37281 Fri, 13 May 2016 08:00:48 +0000 http://www.indiewire.com/2014/more/uncategorized/zack-snyder-hits-back-says-he-made-watchmen-to-save-it-from-the-terry-gilliams-of-the-world-88511/#comment-37281 Snyder straps giant dicks on everything and calls it art. F*** him. Gilliam has more talent in his left nostril.

]]> By: murphious https://staging2.theplaylist.net/zack-snyder-hits-back-says-he-made-watchmen-to-save-it-from-the-terry-gilliams-of-the-world-20140303/#comment-37284 Fri, 13 May 2016 08:00:48 +0000 http://www.indiewire.com/2014/more/uncategorized/zack-snyder-hits-back-says-he-made-watchmen-to-save-it-from-the-terry-gilliams-of-the-world-88511/#comment-37284 Snyder did a fine job with "Watchmen" and to make a film without Doctor Manhattan would be short-changing the audience, especially fans of the graphic novel.
I loved Gilliam's "Time Bandits" and "Brazil". But "Watchmen" benefited from the adult violence/themes Zack Snyder used; Terry Gilliam has a habit of using over-the-top or "campy" violence that wouldn't work for me in a "Watchmen" representation.

]]> By: John Dekle https://staging2.theplaylist.net/zack-snyder-hits-back-says-he-made-watchmen-to-save-it-from-the-terry-gilliams-of-the-world-20140303/#comment-37295 Fri, 13 May 2016 08:00:48 +0000 http://www.indiewire.com/2014/more/uncategorized/zack-snyder-hits-back-says-he-made-watchmen-to-save-it-from-the-terry-gilliams-of-the-world-88511/#comment-37295 When Snyder has accomplished a THIRD of what Gilliam has in his career he can STILL shut his mouth. Don't ever be pompous enough, with only a VERY SMALL handful of "good" projects under your belt, to pound your chest at one of the legends of film. Because you think ONE of his ideas is worse than yours you suddenly have authority in that arena? Please.

]]> By: CAWright https://staging2.theplaylist.net/zack-snyder-hits-back-says-he-made-watchmen-to-save-it-from-the-terry-gilliams-of-the-world-20140303/#comment-37280 Fri, 13 May 2016 08:00:48 +0000 http://www.indiewire.com/2014/more/uncategorized/zack-snyder-hits-back-says-he-made-watchmen-to-save-it-from-the-terry-gilliams-of-the-world-88511/#comment-37280 I love Terry Gilliam with a burning passion BUT I think that he would have gone to artsy with Watchmen and… while not ruining it… would have given us something that was NOT QUITE The Watchmen.

I like The Watchmen movie and I don't think that it suffers from using the graphic novel as a storyboard. It suffered because no one in that movie besides Jackie Earl Haley and Jeffrey Dean Morgan were stellar actors. Look at "Sin City" and see how fantastically reproducing a graphic novel can go when you cast well!

]]> By: Kaos https://staging2.theplaylist.net/zack-snyder-hits-back-says-he-made-watchmen-to-save-it-from-the-terry-gilliams-of-the-world-20140303/#comment-37290 Fri, 13 May 2016 08:00:48 +0000 http://www.indiewire.com/2014/more/uncategorized/zack-snyder-hits-back-says-he-made-watchmen-to-save-it-from-the-terry-gilliams-of-the-world-88511/#comment-37290 Meh, the only good thing about this is that Terry Gilliam's career was saved because his version of the movie didn't go through.

My feelings are the movie would have garked either way because it was based on a comic that in my opinion sucked horses.

I for one am sick of all the doom and depression that happens in today's comics. Now I'm NOT pressing for a return to the Golden Age, or even a ironclad return to the Comics Code. I'd just prefer a somewhere in the middle where there are at least SOME happy endings!

]]> By: C https://staging2.theplaylist.net/zack-snyder-hits-back-says-he-made-watchmen-to-save-it-from-the-terry-gilliams-of-the-world-20140303/#comment-37283 Fri, 13 May 2016 08:00:48 +0000 http://www.indiewire.com/2014/more/uncategorized/zack-snyder-hits-back-says-he-made-watchmen-to-save-it-from-the-terry-gilliams-of-the-world-88511/#comment-37283 So many fanboys int he comments 😀 Lulz 😀

]]> By: Rek https://staging2.theplaylist.net/zack-snyder-hits-back-says-he-made-watchmen-to-save-it-from-the-terry-gilliams-of-the-world-20140303/#comment-37282 Fri, 13 May 2016 08:00:48 +0000 http://www.indiewire.com/2014/more/uncategorized/zack-snyder-hits-back-says-he-made-watchmen-to-save-it-from-the-terry-gilliams-of-the-world-88511/#comment-37282 Gilliam's done some great stuff but mostly in comedy. If "The Brothers Grimm" is what we would have gotten from "Watchmen", then I think Snyder was the right choice. In fact, I think he was the right choice anyways. I could never fathom why Snyder took so much flack from both sides for Watchmen. I loved the movie because it was so faithful to the novel, but still appreciated the purpose of the changed ending. I think die hard fanboys should be greatful that the movie was as faithful as it was in this day of utter irreverence for all original material. You guys looking forward to Teenage Alien Ninja Turtles? Me neither. Try backing productions like Snyder's more and Hollwood will be less nervous about maintaining story integrity.

]]> By: Joe https://staging2.theplaylist.net/zack-snyder-hits-back-says-he-made-watchmen-to-save-it-from-the-terry-gilliams-of-the-world-20140303/#comment-37294 Fri, 13 May 2016 08:00:48 +0000 http://www.indiewire.com/2014/more/uncategorized/zack-snyder-hits-back-says-he-made-watchmen-to-save-it-from-the-terry-gilliams-of-the-world-88511/#comment-37294 Watchmen would have been a better movie if another actress would have slept with the director to get the role of the second Silk Spectre.

I'm sure Akerman was awesome on the casting couch, but whatever passion she put into earning the role didn't translate to the screen.

Her performance couldn't have been more wooden if she were Pinocchio's sister.

]]> By: GTJ https://staging2.theplaylist.net/zack-snyder-hits-back-says-he-made-watchmen-to-save-it-from-the-terry-gilliams-of-the-world-20140303/#comment-37276 Fri, 13 May 2016 08:00:48 +0000 http://www.indiewire.com/2014/more/uncategorized/zack-snyder-hits-back-says-he-made-watchmen-to-save-it-from-the-terry-gilliams-of-the-world-88511/#comment-37276 What exactly has Gilliam done in the last 15 years that was worth watching?

]]> By: srichey https://staging2.theplaylist.net/zack-snyder-hits-back-says-he-made-watchmen-to-save-it-from-the-terry-gilliams-of-the-world-20140303/#comment-37275 Fri, 13 May 2016 08:00:48 +0000 http://www.indiewire.com/2014/more/uncategorized/zack-snyder-hits-back-says-he-made-watchmen-to-save-it-from-the-terry-gilliams-of-the-world-88511/#comment-37275 Not a perfect movie, but not bad either.

]]> By: Juck https://staging2.theplaylist.net/zack-snyder-hits-back-says-he-made-watchmen-to-save-it-from-the-terry-gilliams-of-the-world-20140303/#comment-37292 Fri, 13 May 2016 08:00:48 +0000 http://www.indiewire.com/2014/more/uncategorized/zack-snyder-hits-back-says-he-made-watchmen-to-save-it-from-the-terry-gilliams-of-the-world-88511/#comment-37292 I think Snyder did a fantastic job with Watchmen,, sure I wish they'd used the graphic-novel ending,,, (even if it meant ditching the excellent interpretation of the Black Freighter for time's sake),, but I just can't imagine anyone else doing a better job of carrying-on the spirit of the comics. I care as much about Silver's opinion as I do Alan Moore's ,, they both seriously need to cheer up and get out more.

]]> By: Bob Spreen https://staging2.theplaylist.net/zack-snyder-hits-back-says-he-made-watchmen-to-save-it-from-the-terry-gilliams-of-the-world-20140303/#comment-37286 Fri, 13 May 2016 08:00:48 +0000 http://www.indiewire.com/2014/more/uncategorized/zack-snyder-hits-back-says-he-made-watchmen-to-save-it-from-the-terry-gilliams-of-the-world-88511/#comment-37286 Terry Gilliam did more with less than whoever the f**k this guy is. Terry was making movies before this guy could spell CGI.

]]> By: Dr. F https://staging2.theplaylist.net/zack-snyder-hits-back-says-he-made-watchmen-to-save-it-from-the-terry-gilliams-of-the-world-20140303/#comment-37278 Fri, 13 May 2016 08:00:48 +0000 http://www.indiewire.com/2014/more/uncategorized/zack-snyder-hits-back-says-he-made-watchmen-to-save-it-from-the-terry-gilliams-of-the-world-88511/#comment-37278 I actually enjoyed the Watchmen movie quite a bit. It wasn't a perfect adaptation, but for a story as meta as Watchmen that is not a bad thing. I can't imagine what would have happened if a director like Terry Gilliam had gotten the nod instead. Not saying that Gilliam didn't respect the original story, but you could tell throughout Snyder's movie that he really had a tremendous amount of love for the graphic novel.

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