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	Comments on: Weekend Box Office: &#8216;Snow White And The Huntsman&#8217; Bucks Poor Tracking Worries, The &#8216;Avengers&#8217; Breaks Two More All-Time Records	</title>
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		By: bluebird		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 May 2016 12:21:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The massive ROBSTEN and TWIHARD fanatics were challenged by Tarsem Singhs MIRROR MIRROR, plus the fact that KRISTEN STEWART is the hottest commodity in hollywood right now. The supporting casts CHARLIZE THERON (Queen Ravenna), CHRIS HEMSWORTH (Huntsman) and SAM CLAFLIN (Prince William) are perfect combination to make the movie box office hit!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The massive ROBSTEN and TWIHARD fanatics were challenged by Tarsem Singhs MIRROR MIRROR, plus the fact that KRISTEN STEWART is the hottest commodity in hollywood right now. The supporting casts CHARLIZE THERON (Queen Ravenna), CHRIS HEMSWORTH (Huntsman) and SAM CLAFLIN (Prince William) are perfect combination to make the movie box office hit!</p>
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		By: rb_02		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 May 2016 12:21:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[And on yet another board trolls and skunks try to spin this as anything but a success!

Fact- there is no reason to believe that the marketing for this particular movie was anything higher than the marketing for any other movie with a similar budget.  Even if it really, those who now make the claim on message boards are just speculating.

Fact- this movie will more than double its production budget WW, in terms of money, with tens of millions to spare.

Fact- while marketing costs are not included into the 170M budget, neither are the millions of ancillary revenue that comes later.

Fact- therefore, any movie which doubles its production with WW revenue is &#x27;probably&#x27; going to make a profit.

Fact- with a lesser WW gross to budget ratio than this movie will have, Xmen First Class got a sequel.  So did GI Joe.  So did many others with a worse ratio than this will have.  So did many others with only a slightly better ratio than this will have.  

Fact- studios don&#x27;t generally try to lose money on movies.

Fact- therefore, studios don&#x27;t generally give the go-ahead to a sequel when the first movie flopped.

Fact- since this movie is going to have a better WW revenue to budget ratio than movies which got sequels, it&#x27;s safe to say that this movie didn&#x27;t flop either.

Fact- every box office analyist who actually get paid to review these things calls this movie a success.  The only people who don&#x27;t are know it alls on the Internet.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And on yet another board trolls and skunks try to spin this as anything but a success!</p>
<p>Fact- there is no reason to believe that the marketing for this particular movie was anything higher than the marketing for any other movie with a similar budget.  Even if it really, those who now make the claim on message boards are just speculating.</p>
<p>Fact- this movie will more than double its production budget WW, in terms of money, with tens of millions to spare.</p>
<p>Fact- while marketing costs are not included into the 170M budget, neither are the millions of ancillary revenue that comes later.</p>
<p>Fact- therefore, any movie which doubles its production with WW revenue is &#x27;probably&#x27; going to make a profit.</p>
<p>Fact- with a lesser WW gross to budget ratio than this movie will have, Xmen First Class got a sequel.  So did GI Joe.  So did many others with a worse ratio than this will have.  So did many others with only a slightly better ratio than this will have.  </p>
<p>Fact- studios don&#x27;t generally try to lose money on movies.</p>
<p>Fact- therefore, studios don&#x27;t generally give the go-ahead to a sequel when the first movie flopped.</p>
<p>Fact- since this movie is going to have a better WW revenue to budget ratio than movies which got sequels, it&#x27;s safe to say that this movie didn&#x27;t flop either.</p>
<p>Fact- every box office analyist who actually get paid to review these things calls this movie a success.  The only people who don&#x27;t are know it alls on the Internet.</p>
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		By: AmoaDios		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[For greater glory, the best movie I have ever seen about recent history.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For greater glory, the best movie I have ever seen about recent history.</p>
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		By: Tyrannosaurus Max		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tyrannosaurus Max]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 May 2016 12:21:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Whoooo Moonrise Kingdom!!!]]></description>
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		By: bonzob		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 May 2016 12:21:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Left for dead Cabin in the Woods seems a little harsh, Gabe.  LionsGate picked it up for 15 mil, I believe, and it&#x27;s done 58 worldwide (41 domestic).  Plus, it still hasn&#x27;t opened in a lot of foreign territories.  

Might not have been a mega-hit, but it&#x27;s definitely a nice little earner, and it kicked the shit out of The Chernobyl Diaries.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Left for dead Cabin in the Woods seems a little harsh, Gabe.  LionsGate picked it up for 15 mil, I believe, and it&#x27;s done 58 worldwide (41 domestic).  Plus, it still hasn&#x27;t opened in a lot of foreign territories.  </p>
<p>Might not have been a mega-hit, but it&#x27;s definitely a nice little earner, and it kicked the shit out of The Chernobyl Diaries.</p>
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		By: Max		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Max]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 May 2016 12:21:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Stewart and Pattinson opend twilight in 2008 with an indie budget around $35million.  That was a huge surprise that no one expected. As long as they are tons of loyal fans to repeat viewing a lame blockbuster and support their loved actors, studios really have nothing to worry about.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stewart and Pattinson opend twilight in 2008 with an indie budget around $35million.  That was a huge surprise that no one expected. As long as they are tons of loyal fans to repeat viewing a lame blockbuster and support their loved actors, studios really have nothing to worry about.</p>
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		By: Also		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Also]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 May 2016 12:21:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[These comments are hysterical because if the movie flopped it would have without question been put on Stewart&#x27;s shoulders. But now that it had a solid start it&#x27;s because of every reason but her. The internet is nothing if not painfully predictable.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These comments are hysterical because if the movie flopped it would have without question been put on Stewart&#x27;s shoulders. But now that it had a solid start it&#x27;s because of every reason but her. The internet is nothing if not painfully predictable.</p>
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		By: Zoe		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zoe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 May 2016 12:21:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[When has Jennifer Lawrence opened a movie? Both The Hunger Games and X-Men came with with very large built in fan bases.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When has Jennifer Lawrence opened a movie? Both The Hunger Games and X-Men came with with very large built in fan bases.</p>
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		By: Rah-al		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rah-al]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 May 2016 12:21:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Nice analysis Gabe.]]></description>
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		By: Harry		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Harry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 May 2016 12:21:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Nice article for a change, Gabe.]]></description>
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		By: Gabe		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gabe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 May 2016 12:21:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Please put nice comments]]></description>
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		By: Chez		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chez]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 May 2016 12:21:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The problem with saying that Snow White proves that Stewart can open a film is that Universal spent $80-100 million just to market the film. So the total cost of bring this film out is in the $250-270 million dollar range. Add to that the fact that the film also starred two A-list caliber co-stars (Helmsworth; Theron) who were the center of the film&#x27;s marketing and that Stewart was generally panned for her performance, and I can&#x27;t see this as a win for Stewart at all. Virtually any halfway recognizable actress in the role could have done the same given the astronomical production and marketing costs, and the weakness of her portrayal is going to undercut any legs the film may have. A $56 million OW in the context of how much the film cost, the cast, the instantly recognizable nature of the story and a OW without serious competition is hardly a success no matter how you spin it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with saying that Snow White proves that Stewart can open a film is that Universal spent $80-100 million just to market the film. So the total cost of bring this film out is in the $250-270 million dollar range. Add to that the fact that the film also starred two A-list caliber co-stars (Helmsworth; Theron) who were the center of the film&#x27;s marketing and that Stewart was generally panned for her performance, and I can&#x27;t see this as a win for Stewart at all. Virtually any halfway recognizable actress in the role could have done the same given the astronomical production and marketing costs, and the weakness of her portrayal is going to undercut any legs the film may have. A $56 million OW in the context of how much the film cost, the cast, the instantly recognizable nature of the story and a OW without serious competition is hardly a success no matter how you spin it.</p>
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		By: Notbuyingit		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 May 2016 12:21:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[$56 million open for a bloated summer release with intense advertising is not a great success. Universal knew they had a clunker on their hands so they lowered expectations early and here comes the spin.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>$56 million open for a bloated summer release with intense advertising is not a great success. Universal knew they had a clunker on their hands so they lowered expectations early and here comes the spin.</p>
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		By: Jo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jo]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[Can Jennifer or Emma Open in a film? THG success is not solely due to Jen and the Help was due to Emma either. 

The market may have focused on Charlize but everyone knew Kristen was in it and a lot of the Internet buzz was due to her fans. SWATH is def. a win for her.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can Jennifer or Emma Open in a film? THG success is not solely due to Jen and the Help was due to Emma either. </p>
<p>The market may have focused on Charlize but everyone knew Kristen was in it and a lot of the Internet buzz was due to her fans. SWATH is def. a win for her.</p>
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		By: Jingle		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jingle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 May 2016 12:21:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ever heard of Chris &#034;Thor&#034; Hemsworth? Kristen Stewart can HELP open a movie as long as she&#x27;s paired with a male star whom women find attractive. See Twilight for further reference.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ever heard of Chris &quot;Thor&quot; Hemsworth? Kristen Stewart can HELP open a movie as long as she&#x27;s paired with a male star whom women find attractive. See Twilight for further reference.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Yankee Doodle]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[&#034;Having the central role in another blockbuster, and possible franchise, places her in the very small conversation of young females who can open a film, alongside peers like Emma Stone and Jennifer Lawrence.&#034;-- I don&#x27;t see how this computes. Yes, the name of the film is SNOW WHITE and the Huntsman but the entire marketing campaign was focused around Charlize Theron&#x27;s evil queen. Stewart barely had any lines in the previews (not that she really had any speaking lines in the film) and most of the commercials heavily focused on Theron&#x27;s evil queen. This is not to say that people came out specifically to see Theron- no matter how well liked and respected the lady may be- but it is to say that Stewart in no way should be in the same conversation as Stone who opened Easy A and The Help (the latter may have had a preexisting fan base but the marketing campaign was directed entirely at Stone) and Lawrence who is undeniably more talented and sought after. This may prove Stewart is no Pattinson (stiff as block, 2 bombs post-Twilight) but she&#x27;s definitely not in the same league as Stone and company.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Having the central role in another blockbuster, and possible franchise, places her in the very small conversation of young females who can open a film, alongside peers like Emma Stone and Jennifer Lawrence.&quot;&#8211; I don&#x27;t see how this computes. Yes, the name of the film is SNOW WHITE and the Huntsman but the entire marketing campaign was focused around Charlize Theron&#x27;s evil queen. Stewart barely had any lines in the previews (not that she really had any speaking lines in the film) and most of the commercials heavily focused on Theron&#x27;s evil queen. This is not to say that people came out specifically to see Theron- no matter how well liked and respected the lady may be- but it is to say that Stewart in no way should be in the same conversation as Stone who opened Easy A and The Help (the latter may have had a preexisting fan base but the marketing campaign was directed entirely at Stone) and Lawrence who is undeniably more talented and sought after. This may prove Stewart is no Pattinson (stiff as block, 2 bombs post-Twilight) but she&#x27;s definitely not in the same league as Stone and company.</p>
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