If there was a misogynistic commentary in this film, like say, SOCIAL NETWORK, I could see where you’re coming from. Any defense that says there’s an anti-misogynistic commentary just bc it’s a dystopia, I think is being projected onto the film because it doesn’t exist in the text. This is a movie about dudes and their desires, told from an exclusively male point of view. There’s nothing that counter-balances the way women are depicted on-screen.

Hey guess what! Its a….. DYSTOPIA. Not trying to portray where we want to be but where we are going, at least in parts. Not all art is going to show a utopian view of gender equality. This view point doesn’t work for art unless it is idealizing the mistreatment of women when this film is so clearly the antithesis of that.

Except that movies that underperform are now yanked immediately from theatres and no one has a chance to see them anymore. I have missed half of the movies I have wanted to see this year because I didn’t see them in their first week, which was also their last.

What do you mean ‘same depiction’? Like, if most of the men in the film were stripped naked to be stared down by the female characters? It’d be equally gross.

So can i ask you, if the same depiction of men happens, do you have similar problem with that?

You have a point there, i think we should all think how great the movie is and not about money

“No one will care how much it did “, oh, I think the producers will care. They already care.
This might spell the end for Alcon, unfortunately.

People should be focused about the quality of the film and trying to encourage them to go see it. If nothing else the ultimate fate of the film will be spoken in the quality of the film. And right now that is what should be the real story, how Denis Villeneuve made a great film. No one will care how much it did or didn’t make in the theaters 10 years from now other than the film executives.

I believe the point of the film is to subvert exactly what you are pointing out. These tropes are core to detective fiction, but, as with this director’s other films, he’s interested in how people prefer to see each other as projections of their own needs and problems, rather than as people (the film Enemy is particularly critical of men ion this point) so it would be surprising if he simply threw his philosophy out the window when making this film. Two of the women in the film are created by a man, and one of them is literally a fantasy projection serving food in a 50s outfit. It is a world that has destroyed itself with consumerized objectification, to the point where the consumers are product themselves, like K. It imperfectly describes the trap of sexist, modern consumerism: K is designed/ raised to have these lonely, hyper-caricaturized needs, and Joi is designed to fulfill those needs, and sold to K as a product. Just like men today. The final joke on him us that he’s not even important at all; all his relationships are simply a fantasy. The film is a tragedy about the Holmes and lack of talk connecting that we all suffer from due to these narcissistic, largely masculine flaws.

I think all of us see movies differently. Personally, I was delighted and was left speechless with Blade Runner 2049. This film was a masterpiece in every way…I loved it.
My opinion is also from the female audience.

I really wanted to like the movie too man but sometimes reality doesn’t line up with our hopes and dreams ¯_(ツ)_/¯

Nope

SPOILERS!!!!!!!!!!!!

I do not want to spoil this movie for anyone b/c I loved it but I can’t agree with your view on how women arrested in the film. Everyone is brutalized in the movie. The male protagonist is brutalized more often and severely than any character. Almost all the main female characters were in positions of power. K served under a woman. She protect him at the risk of her own. LUV was a fully capable female. Sure, she was sadistic but effective. The savior child for the Replicants was a woman!! The leader of the Replicant resistance was a woman.

The only female character sexualized was JOI. But K didnt treat her that way. The billboard was so explicit b/c it drove home the idea how someone could get caught into a shallow illusion. But it also create the idea the K treated with so much care, respect, and purpose that she was capable of being more than what she was created, just like Replicant. Or, maybe she was infiltrated by the Resistance to manipulate K. Who knows? But that’s the beauty of the movie.

The trailers didn’t reflect anything that would ultimately hook in general female audiences. Sci-Fi genre generally skews male, and there’s nothing wrong with having two male leads in your film, but this movie’s ultimate view/depiction of women is pretty effing gross. WOM travels fast

I agree with you on how the film portrays females, but I don’t see how people would know that going in. This article is about first weekend box office sales, so the people who went/did not go would largely be affected by previous experience with the IP, or the trailers/marketing.