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		By: Alan B		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[A little heads up in regards to the Matt Singer article. It was inspired by a similarly themed piece of commentary by Slant Magazine&#x27;s Calum Marsh. When Marsh isn&#x27;t too busy being the most pig-ignorant, obnoxious and hypocritically anti-intellectual critic this side of Devin Faraci and Matt Goldberg, he&#x27;s also happy to explain why everyone is stupid ... except himself, of course. It&#x27;s a creepily self-absorbed piece of writing, and - in the comments section of the Marsh article - Peter Schorn wrote a brilliant response to the &#x27;commentary&#x27;. I don&#x27;t want to diminish the comment (which is worth 100 reviews by Marsh), so I will just post it without truncation: &#x27;The whole premise of this article is one of utter selfishness: &#034;Who cares if I spoil YOUR experience? Who reads a review to not have their experience spoiled?&#034; I&#x27;ll tell you who: People who have to pay to see the movie that the &#034;critic&#034; probably saw in advance for free. To believe that, &#034;film criticism is intended to be read by people who have seen the film under discussion,&#034; is to have no effing idea of the purpose of movie reviews to the general public. This is chin-stroking (and other parts) of the worse sort. You know why so many people say, &#034;I don&#x27;t listen to film reviews&#034;? It&#x27;s because smug twits like the author are useless ponces.

It&#x27;s bad enough that most trailers, particularly for rom-coms as if there&#x27;s any doubt the couple will get together by the end - spell out the entire plot, but when someone is trying to determine whether a movie is worth dropping over $20 in tickets alone not to mention gas, parking, snacks, babysitter, what purpose is served by some self-righteous juvenile movie &#034;critic&#034; who can&#x27;t capable discuss whether a movie is worth the time and money without bragging like a brat about what he knows that the reader doesn&#x27;t. A review is not the place for a deep spoilerific analysis. Sorry, it&#x27;s not. If you can&#x27;t deal with that, then get out of the reviewing business and stick to analysis.

A question for those who think spoiling the surprise for others is your right: Who anointed you the Keeper of Secrets? Are you such a-holes that if a friend spent weeks planning a surprise party for someone, you&#x27;d tip them off that it was going to happen? If yes, you&#x27;re a jerk; if no, then why do you get to ruin others&#x27; movie fun? 

2nd Question: Did someone spoil it for you before you experienced the movie or did you see it as the filmmakers intended? If you went in cold and were surprised, why are you so hellbent on denying others the same experience you had other than a childish need to ruin others fun?

In the commentary for The Usual Suspects, someone remarks about how the scene where Verbal is sitting in Kujan&#x27;s office before his questioning reads totally differently the 2nd time you view it. The first time, you think Verbal is bored and just looking around the room; the second time you realize he&#x27;s piecing together the elements of his story. For self-anointed spoiler spreaders like the author, it&#x27;s more important to say, &#034;While Verbal tells his story, the revelation that he is himself Keyser Soze may surprise some, but viewers should pay attention to the early scene where he gathers the pieces of his puzzle.&#034; WHAT?

Even the knowledge that there&#x27;s a twist is a spoiler. I hate ads which quote spoiler reviews like, &#034;...and So-And-So of the Irrelevant Media Outlet says, &#x27;You won&#x27;t see the twist coming at all!&#x27;&#034; Um, no. Thanks to the review and ad, I&#x27;m going to spend the entire movie looking for hints of the twist instead of simply watching the movie. I had to run away from discussions of the outrage over the ending of Mass Effect 3 for three weeks while I played the game because I wanted to see for myself how I felt. The moment I was done, I went looking for those discussions, but it was MY CHOICE to find them. (I&#x27;m currently dodging Bioshock Infinite spoilers. Not everyone can rush out and play games the moment they come out.)

As a reviewer, I&#x27;ve had to dance around spoilers even for older movies like Audition because there are plenty of people who haven&#x27;t seen it, but are aware of it though not the specifics. Somehow I was able to not discuss the specifics, but then again I&#x27;m not a hack with a need to spoil others fun to make myself feel important and in the know. 

Have I ever spoiled something? Yes, in reviews on my personal blog (not major media outlets) for movies that are so bad that they need to be spoiled in order to properly explain what&#x27;s so awful, usually in regards to how the trailer promises one thing and the movie is something else entirely. Country Strong was a particularly egregious case in when I posted the trailer and then asked if the end of the movie is even alluded to and how it was a nasty bait-and-switch on audiences paying for one thing and getting something totally different. But note that I didn&#x27;t post the spoiler here because it&#x27;s not my job to wreck things outside of my house and I&#x27;m not a spoiler jerk like the author. Occasionally I&#x27;ll put a spoiler discussion section at the very bottom of my blog&#x27;s reviews, but it&#x27;s flagged and isolated from the main review text, marked as for those who have either seen the movie or don&#x27;t care about spoilers.

There is a place of candid and in-depth discussion of a movie&#x27;s plot and twist, but it is NOT IN THE FRIDAY MORNING REVIEW OF A NEW RELEASE! Sorry, but that&#x27;s the case, Spoiler Mongers. Write a secondary analysis chin&#x2F;wang-stroking on Monday for those who&#x27;ve seen it to join in with and those who haven&#x27;t yet to avoid. But no not ruin the experience for those who don&#x27;t want it ruined just because you&#x27;re such a child that you can&#x27;t restrain your urges to run by the bookstores at midnight to scream, &#034;DUMBLEDORE DIES!&#034; at the kids awaiting their new Harry Potter novel. Jerk.&#x27;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A little heads up in regards to the Matt Singer article. It was inspired by a similarly themed piece of commentary by Slant Magazine&#x27;s Calum Marsh. When Marsh isn&#x27;t too busy being the most pig-ignorant, obnoxious and hypocritically anti-intellectual critic this side of Devin Faraci and Matt Goldberg, he&#x27;s also happy to explain why everyone is stupid &#8230; except himself, of course. It&#x27;s a creepily self-absorbed piece of writing, and &#8211; in the comments section of the Marsh article &#8211; Peter Schorn wrote a brilliant response to the &#x27;commentary&#x27;. I don&#x27;t want to diminish the comment (which is worth 100 reviews by Marsh), so I will just post it without truncation: &#x27;The whole premise of this article is one of utter selfishness: &quot;Who cares if I spoil YOUR experience? Who reads a review to not have their experience spoiled?&quot; I&#x27;ll tell you who: People who have to pay to see the movie that the &quot;critic&quot; probably saw in advance for free. To believe that, &quot;film criticism is intended to be read by people who have seen the film under discussion,&quot; is to have no effing idea of the purpose of movie reviews to the general public. This is chin-stroking (and other parts) of the worse sort. You know why so many people say, &quot;I don&#x27;t listen to film reviews&quot;? It&#x27;s because smug twits like the author are useless ponces.</p>
<p>It&#x27;s bad enough that most trailers, particularly for rom-coms as if there&#x27;s any doubt the couple will get together by the end &#8211; spell out the entire plot, but when someone is trying to determine whether a movie is worth dropping over $20 in tickets alone not to mention gas, parking, snacks, babysitter, what purpose is served by some self-righteous juvenile movie &quot;critic&quot; who can&#x27;t capable discuss whether a movie is worth the time and money without bragging like a brat about what he knows that the reader doesn&#x27;t. A review is not the place for a deep spoilerific analysis. Sorry, it&#x27;s not. If you can&#x27;t deal with that, then get out of the reviewing business and stick to analysis.</p>
<p>A question for those who think spoiling the surprise for others is your right: Who anointed you the Keeper of Secrets? Are you such a-holes that if a friend spent weeks planning a surprise party for someone, you&#x27;d tip them off that it was going to happen? If yes, you&#x27;re a jerk; if no, then why do you get to ruin others&#x27; movie fun? </p>
<p>2nd Question: Did someone spoil it for you before you experienced the movie or did you see it as the filmmakers intended? If you went in cold and were surprised, why are you so hellbent on denying others the same experience you had other than a childish need to ruin others fun?</p>
<p>In the commentary for The Usual Suspects, someone remarks about how the scene where Verbal is sitting in Kujan&#x27;s office before his questioning reads totally differently the 2nd time you view it. The first time, you think Verbal is bored and just looking around the room; the second time you realize he&#x27;s piecing together the elements of his story. For self-anointed spoiler spreaders like the author, it&#x27;s more important to say, &quot;While Verbal tells his story, the revelation that he is himself Keyser Soze may surprise some, but viewers should pay attention to the early scene where he gathers the pieces of his puzzle.&quot; WHAT?</p>
<p>Even the knowledge that there&#x27;s a twist is a spoiler. I hate ads which quote spoiler reviews like, &quot;&#8230;and So-And-So of the Irrelevant Media Outlet says, &#x27;You won&#x27;t see the twist coming at all!&#x27;&quot; Um, no. Thanks to the review and ad, I&#x27;m going to spend the entire movie looking for hints of the twist instead of simply watching the movie. I had to run away from discussions of the outrage over the ending of Mass Effect 3 for three weeks while I played the game because I wanted to see for myself how I felt. The moment I was done, I went looking for those discussions, but it was MY CHOICE to find them. (I&#x27;m currently dodging Bioshock Infinite spoilers. Not everyone can rush out and play games the moment they come out.)</p>
<p>As a reviewer, I&#x27;ve had to dance around spoilers even for older movies like Audition because there are plenty of people who haven&#x27;t seen it, but are aware of it though not the specifics. Somehow I was able to not discuss the specifics, but then again I&#x27;m not a hack with a need to spoil others fun to make myself feel important and in the know. </p>
<p>Have I ever spoiled something? Yes, in reviews on my personal blog (not major media outlets) for movies that are so bad that they need to be spoiled in order to properly explain what&#x27;s so awful, usually in regards to how the trailer promises one thing and the movie is something else entirely. Country Strong was a particularly egregious case in when I posted the trailer and then asked if the end of the movie is even alluded to and how it was a nasty bait-and-switch on audiences paying for one thing and getting something totally different. But note that I didn&#x27;t post the spoiler here because it&#x27;s not my job to wreck things outside of my house and I&#x27;m not a spoiler jerk like the author. Occasionally I&#x27;ll put a spoiler discussion section at the very bottom of my blog&#x27;s reviews, but it&#x27;s flagged and isolated from the main review text, marked as for those who have either seen the movie or don&#x27;t care about spoilers.</p>
<p>There is a place of candid and in-depth discussion of a movie&#x27;s plot and twist, but it is NOT IN THE FRIDAY MORNING REVIEW OF A NEW RELEASE! Sorry, but that&#x27;s the case, Spoiler Mongers. Write a secondary analysis chin&#x2F;wang-stroking on Monday for those who&#x27;ve seen it to join in with and those who haven&#x27;t yet to avoid. But no not ruin the experience for those who don&#x27;t want it ruined just because you&#x27;re such a child that you can&#x27;t restrain your urges to run by the bookstores at midnight to scream, &quot;DUMBLEDORE DIES!&quot; at the kids awaiting their new Harry Potter novel. Jerk.&#x27;</p>
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		By: Kevin		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[It&#x27;s pretty clearly stated in the opening paragraph there will be spoilers. If you read past that and still complain, that&#x27;s on you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#x27;s pretty clearly stated in the opening paragraph there will be spoilers. If you read past that and still complain, that&#x27;s on you.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[How sad that a &#034;reviewer&#034; doesn&#x27;t know the different between a &#034;discussion&#034; and an actual review.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How sad that a &quot;reviewer&quot; doesn&#x27;t know the different between a &quot;discussion&quot; and an actual review.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[Gabe Toro - what a cunt. Another reason I am visiting The Playlist.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gabe Toro &#8211; what a cunt. Another reason I am visiting The Playlist.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[I guess it&#x27;s official...  I now no longer have an interest in reading any Playlist reviews.  Spoilers indicate both a lack of respect for readers and a big lack of writing ability for the writer.  All my favourite critics can describe a movie&#x27;s premise in well written paragraph or two, and can discuss a movie&#x27;s story, theme, strengths and weaknesses without giving away second and third act plot points.  It&#x27;s called skillful writing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess it&#x27;s official&#8230;  I now no longer have an interest in reading any Playlist reviews.  Spoilers indicate both a lack of respect for readers and a big lack of writing ability for the writer.  All my favourite critics can describe a movie&#x27;s premise in well written paragraph or two, and can discuss a movie&#x27;s story, theme, strengths and weaknesses without giving away second and third act plot points.  It&#x27;s called skillful writing.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sorry to be reductive, but - for the purposes of simplicity - I would say there are two kinds of late 2nd&#x2F;3rd act spoilers: spoilers discussed AFTER the film is widely available, and those revealed BEFORE. For instance, no one will issue death threats to Jonathan Rosenbaum if he releases an in-depth analysis on the career of Richard Linklater, in which the critic draws upon the endings of the the Texan director&#x27;s films. That&#x27;s because a book like that is based on the understanding that the viewer has seen the films, and wants to gather a more in-depth understanding of Linklater and the purposes of those endings. This kind of spoiler also applies to more exhaustive articles on films written AFTER the film has been released: for instance, a piece exploring the ending of &#x27;Iron Man 3&#x27; would be fine after the reader has had a chance to see it. Then there is the &#x27;Rodrigo Perez&#x27;-style, where he will drop spoilers WITHOUT WARNING not because he wants to draw the reader into a more academic debate on the film&#x27;s merits, but really because he does not know how to write criticism above the intellectual level of  &#034;and then this person did this, and IT&#x27;S SO STUPID, he, he, he ...&#034; People - unsurprisingly - would like the FILMMAKERS to reveal key plot points in the story, not critics, and - even if they were partial to a critic revealing said story developments - I doubt they would appreciate the childish antics of Go-Rez. If you want to discuss the film in detail, I would be happy to read the review, but only AFTER I have experienced the film for myself.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to be reductive, but &#8211; for the purposes of simplicity &#8211; I would say there are two kinds of late 2nd&#x2F;3rd act spoilers: spoilers discussed AFTER the film is widely available, and those revealed BEFORE. For instance, no one will issue death threats to Jonathan Rosenbaum if he releases an in-depth analysis on the career of Richard Linklater, in which the critic draws upon the endings of the the Texan director&#x27;s films. That&#x27;s because a book like that is based on the understanding that the viewer has seen the films, and wants to gather a more in-depth understanding of Linklater and the purposes of those endings. This kind of spoiler also applies to more exhaustive articles on films written AFTER the film has been released: for instance, a piece exploring the ending of &#x27;Iron Man 3&#x27; would be fine after the reader has had a chance to see it. Then there is the &#x27;Rodrigo Perez&#x27;-style, where he will drop spoilers WITHOUT WARNING not because he wants to draw the reader into a more academic debate on the film&#x27;s merits, but really because he does not know how to write criticism above the intellectual level of  &quot;and then this person did this, and IT&#x27;S SO STUPID, he, he, he &#8230;&quot; People &#8211; unsurprisingly &#8211; would like the FILMMAKERS to reveal key plot points in the story, not critics, and &#8211; even if they were partial to a critic revealing said story developments &#8211; I doubt they would appreciate the childish antics of Go-Rez. If you want to discuss the film in detail, I would be happy to read the review, but only AFTER I have experienced the film for myself.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[I enjoy reading The Playlist but the reviews are consistently terrible. You always review the story rather than the movie. Six paragraphs and not a mention of any of this film&#x27;s many cinematic achievements. Abrahamson uses empathy and tension to wring high drama out of everyday tragedy (in that respect it reminded me of A Seperation). He&#x27;s a formally gifted director who improves with every film, and he deserves a bit of credit.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I enjoy reading The Playlist but the reviews are consistently terrible. You always review the story rather than the movie. Six paragraphs and not a mention of any of this film&#x27;s many cinematic achievements. Abrahamson uses empathy and tension to wring high drama out of everyday tragedy (in that respect it reminded me of A Seperation). He&#x27;s a formally gifted director who improves with every film, and he deserves a bit of credit.</p>
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