Comments on: The 5 Ways Hollywood Gets Porn Wrong

By: Alex

Alex — Fri, 13 May 2016 09:19:27 +0000

Don Jon is not about porn and porn addiction (that's why they changed the title of the film from "Don Jon's Addiction" to "Don Jon"). It's about how media consumption can distort our expectations about each other and about love and sex.

"Is it too much to hope for a film about someone watching porn and living a normal life?" Why hope for a movie ABOUT that? It'd make a boring story.

By: Kate

Kate — Fri, 13 May 2016 09:19:27 +0000

The porn industry is only a backdrop in 'Starlet', but it's an interesting portrayal nonetheless. Neither tragic nor hilarious, mostly banal.

By: Chris

Chris — Fri, 13 May 2016 09:19:27 +0000

His name is Kirby Dick, not Dick Kirby. And "This Film is Not Yet Rated" isn't the slightest bit brilliant, offering anecdotes and a few nice insights from individual filmmakers but spending the majority of the movie inexplicably trying to expose the identities of the people on the ratings board like some cheap paparazzo. I've read 300-word articles with more to say about the absurd MPAA ratings system than that movie.

By: Gabe Toro

Gabe Toro — Fri, 13 May 2016 09:19:27 +0000

Bobbi Starr's role in "Drive" was recast with Christina Hendricks, so at least they could be considered taking more… bankable? approach? Which is a pity, because Ms. Starr wrote a lovely essay about being cast, and about the barrier breaking down between performers in the different industries.

By: BEF

BEF — Fri, 13 May 2016 09:19:27 +0000

Great write-up … even something like "Flight" our introduction to Kelly Reilly is her going to a porn set to score some money for drugs, and it's like the easiest way to let the audience know — she's in trouble right now.

By: CR

CR — Fri, 13 May 2016 09:19:27 +0000

Thanks, Kate – was going to mention STARLET as well; an underseen gem, with a heroine who has a lot of agency.

By: Marco

Marco — Fri, 13 May 2016 09:19:27 +0000

How is Shame a Hollywood film?

By: Doug

Doug — Fri, 13 May 2016 09:19:27 +0000

OK. Well for a through article, you sure missed one porn star that crossed over, and was semi successful. At least in B movies and on TV. "Traci Lords" was infamous for her unintentional destruction of some of the larger porn distribution companies. This happened when her mother informed the Authorities that the young Traci was indeed underage. She started her career far to young but looked over 21. She gave them fake documents and they accepted them. So all her work became "Kiddy Porn" thus the FBI confiscated it and destroyed all of it. She became a outcast in the porn industry. Did one more Porn film in France and then went to main stream Hollywood to get into film, etc. The funny thing is she is in one of the movies you mentioned. The sex comedy âZack and Miri Make A Porno". I read a interview with her and she stated she had just had a child and they were going to ask her to do a topless scene and she said, "NO". It wasn't a deal breaker so she was in the film. Long before this she was in a TV show on Sci-Fi Channel. It was called "The First Wave" and I thought she did a fairly good job, and rarely had problems overacting in my opinion. It aired from 1998 to 2001 . Traci Lords was Jordan Radcliffe in season three. She was also in at least a few B movies. So again, she didn't make it big but she did score a role on a fairly well liked Science Fiction show several years ago now. She was a big deal in Porn till she refused to give her mother money one day and her mother ended her porn days.

By: TheoC

TheoC — Fri, 13 May 2016 09:19:27 +0000

Liked the feature, mostly agree. Hollywood tip toes around porn like it is still taboo, in reality it's like professional wrestling, the truth about what goes on behind the scenes is probably equally daft and depraved and we watch for the same reasons, it's either funny or stupid and we know how it ends.

By: Chris

Chris — Fri, 13 May 2016 09:19:27 +0000

Great article.

By: MGS

MGS — Fri, 13 May 2016 09:19:27 +0000

Concerning Porn Sars crossing over into Mainstream: Sibel Kekilli had been a porn actress before starring in 2004's "Gegen die Wand" which won her the best actress award at the Berlinale. YOu might know her as "Game of Thrones" Shae!
So there have been succesfull carreer switches, though maybe not in the US.

By: Nathan

Nathan — Fri, 13 May 2016 09:19:27 +0000

The porn industry is floundering like this year's summer crop of blockbusters. I'm not sure if there's a parallel there or not, but I guess we shouldn't expect Hollywood to address that fact anytime soon when they can just make another lightweight, Oscar-baiting biopic about an obscure porn star. This seems like territory only Errol Morris could really do justice.

By: Elspeth Chagall

Elspeth Chagall — Fri, 13 May 2016 09:19:27 +0000

There is actually one other porn star who has successfully (depending on your point of view, but I think so) made the jump to mainstream: Brent Coorigan, going by the name now of Sean Lockhart. Saw him recently in a LGBT film called 'Judas Kiss' where he had a supporting role in. Recently, he starred, co-wrote and produced a film that was test screened in Philadelphia at this year's QFEST, Truth, which happened to be an interesting psychological thriller. He has another one coming out sometime next year (don't remember the name off the top of my head). I certainly realize that it's relatively rare that a porn stat can successful make the jump to mainstream film. Brent has demonstrated he was some real acting chops and it seems that the projects he's been getting look very interesting. The trick is that these guys have to know how to promote themselves in order to be success. That's what makes the difference between the big stars, even in porn, and the 'also-rans'.

By: j

Fri, 13 May 2016 09:19:27 +0000

Here's the way i see it pornography isn't addressed in a intellectual context .It's not for intellects its more about sensual pleasures.So when hollywood or any legitimate film makers do a film on pornography it falls by the waste line.I think the way to remedy that is instead touch upon the idea of what sex means .Deal exclusively with sex in its own context not in the one of pornography .Which is very 1 dimensional sex is not and intellectual game and when you have a bunch of brainy people talking about it .Or making films about the particular subject they are doing it from a intellectual perspective .Porn doesn't need to be philosophized over its pretty objective and too the point .What really should be tackled is just sex period which its obvious that.These film makers who do make films about porn have no idea what the hell they are doing.

By: David

David — Fri, 13 May 2016 09:19:27 +0000

The issue is not that Hollywood get porn wrong (the same could be said about porn getting Hollywood wrong), but most importantly that Hollywood gets sex wrong. Once the latter is fixed you can start to fix the former, if needed be.

By: Free

Free — Fri, 13 May 2016 09:19:27 +0000

Maybe I missed it, but for an article that attempts to state what's wrong with porn in Hollywood, I didn't read much in the way of solutions. Also, unless there's actual proof that the people from Drive were cut BECAUSE they were porn stars, that's a big presumption.

By: Zinjo

Zinjo — Fri, 13 May 2016 09:19:27 +0000

Thank you for NOT peppering this article with pontificating socio-politcal morals about the porn industry. The reality is porn is to sex as Hollywood is to reality! Unlike Europe where a porn star can be elected to government, the US is so entrenched in it's schizophrenic hypocrisy of publicly denouncing of porn as much as it secretly consumes it, that it cannot accept that performers in the industry simply are not scarred or imprisoned by it as the moralists (religious or other) wish them to be. These people "must be punished" for not shooting up a theater but having sex in one instead! I suspect the film, "About Cherry" has to be the closest to reality for a porn set. The matter of fact sex, over performed for the cameras ending with a polite "thank you" from the co-stars and director. Nothing glamorous or traumatic for anyone, just a "job". Granted "Cherry" has issues about how much was too much to fit into a limited amount of cinema time, but I found it to be a refreshing addition to the subject matter. It didn't preach it simply gave the audience a look at the journey of a young woman from a difficult family life getting involved in the porn industry. It could have been better, but as already described in this article, it could have been much worse.

By: the sayer of the truth

the sayer of the truth — Fri, 13 May 2016 09:19:27 +0000

Porn is the truth and is there-fore the future, Hollywood is lies and hypocrisy and is there-fore the past.

By: the sayer of the truth

the sayer of the truth — Fri, 13 May 2016 09:19:27 +0000

Practically every Hollywood movie and TV show is an endless line and succession of sexual inuendos and situations, why are people still watching all that ludicrously out-moded and hypocritical garbage when the real McCoy is now freely available at the touch of a button on the internet ! ?, I dont really understand how that abomination known as Hollywood is still getting away with their ludicrous lies and hypocrisy in this day and age, Hollywood has been getting away with its loathsome deception for over 100 years now, isn`t it time for that deception to end ! ! !.

By: the real zinjo

the real zinjo — Fri, 13 May 2016 09:19:26 +0000

Jennifer, i have seen the light and i will obey.

By: zinjo

zinjo — Fri, 13 May 2016 09:19:26 +0000

Agreed, i just want to see beautiful gorgeous sexy 18 year-old girls being buggered and sodomized all day long, Hollywood doesn`t provide that so why would i want to waste my time with Hollywood ever again ! ?.

By: zinjo

zinjo — Fri, 13 May 2016 09:19:26 +0000

Another key point here of course is that Americans love to wallow and revel in their own hypocrisy, its a very important part of their lives, especially with regards to everything pertaining to sex, yet another reason why the 20th century will always be remembered by future historians as "THE TIME OF SEXUAL REPRESSION" and we`re the poor bastards who had to live through it, and you wonder why i`m so bitter ! ? ! ?.

By: The Real Zinjo

The Real Zinjo — Fri, 13 May 2016 09:19:26 +0000

*Ahem*, if you are going to impersonate someone junior, you might want to at least demonstrate a bit of, shall we say "balance" in your comments.

Show yourself, use your own name and let's see who you REALLY are, or do we add cowardice to your repertoire of identity theft and libel? (I bet repertoire is not even in your vocabulary….)

By: jennifer croissant

jennifer croissant — Fri, 13 May 2016 09:19:26 +0000

Zinjo my old mate, i think you should get your priorities right, whether or not the word 'repertoire' is in "The Sayer of the Truths" vocabulary is something that simply should not be concerning you, the ONLY thing you should instead be concerning yourself with is the fact that "The Sayer of the Truth" IS INDEED the ultimate truth (as his name would suggest obviously). Just absorb the wisdom of "The Sayer of the Truth", everything else is total bull-shit, believe me.