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	Comments on: Terry Gilliam Equates #MeToo Movement To &#8216;Mob Rule&#8217; And Talks Harvey Weinstein	</title>
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		By: lichgore		</title>
		<link>https://staging2.theplaylist.net/terry-gilliam-metoo-20180316/#comment-159245</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lichgore]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2018 19:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The day and power  of the old white guy is going like the dinosaur.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The day and power  of the old white guy is going like the dinosaur.</p>
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		By: TheBunk		</title>
		<link>https://staging2.theplaylist.net/terry-gilliam-metoo-20180316/#comment-159210</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Mar 2018 22:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I find this expectation of an apology to be really gross. Maybe the dude is in the wrong, and maybe that&#039;ll effect his ability to get gigs from here on out. That&#039;s fine. That&#039;s cause and effect. But, let&#039;s not go around being cops and demanding capitulation.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find this expectation of an apology to be really gross. Maybe the dude is in the wrong, and maybe that&#8217;ll effect his ability to get gigs from here on out. That&#8217;s fine. That&#8217;s cause and effect. But, let&#8217;s not go around being cops and demanding capitulation.</p>
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		By: Northman		</title>
		<link>https://staging2.theplaylist.net/terry-gilliam-metoo-20180316/#comment-159201</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Mar 2018 16:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Gilliam&#039;s comments seemed pretty balanced to me. He addressed that there are problems with men like Weinstein but also pointed out that movements like #MeToo can go overboard with zealotry. Since when does looking at something objectively constitute as &quot;not getting it&quot;?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gilliam&#8217;s comments seemed pretty balanced to me. He addressed that there are problems with men like Weinstein but also pointed out that movements like #MeToo can go overboard with zealotry. Since when does looking at something objectively constitute as &#8220;not getting it&#8221;?</p>
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		By: Billy		</title>
		<link>https://staging2.theplaylist.net/terry-gilliam-metoo-20180316/#comment-159199</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Mar 2018 11:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Agreed Fredrik/Daniel.  When are the chumps at Playlist gonna stop acting like liberal fascists?  Again, I repeat, your political one sidedness is abhorrent.  Please get some perspective.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed Fredrik/Daniel.  When are the chumps at Playlist gonna stop acting like liberal fascists?  Again, I repeat, your political one sidedness is abhorrent.  Please get some perspective.</p>
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		By: Fredrik Johansen		</title>
		<link>https://staging2.theplaylist.net/terry-gilliam-metoo-20180316/#comment-159197</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Mar 2018 10:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Haha, the writer of this piece tries to attack Gilliam, by using exactly the kind of mob mentality that Gilliam is talking about. Good job of kicking yourself in the face, Charles Barfield.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha, the writer of this piece tries to attack Gilliam, by using exactly the kind of mob mentality that Gilliam is talking about. Good job of kicking yourself in the face, Charles Barfield.</p>
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		By: Charles Smallwood		</title>
		<link>https://staging2.theplaylist.net/terry-gilliam-metoo-20180316/#comment-159195</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Charles Smallwood]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Mar 2018 04:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://staging2.theplaylist.net/terry-gilliam-metoo-20180316/#comment-159194&quot;&gt;Daniel Strange&lt;/a&gt;.

Sounds about right.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://staging2.theplaylist.net/terry-gilliam-metoo-20180316/#comment-159194">Daniel Strange</a>.</p>
<p>Sounds about right.</p>
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		By: Daniel Strange		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Mar 2018 01:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I respectfully disagree, Charles. Let&#039;s take a look at what he said.

- He acknowledges that the people Harvey preyed on were victims. In the original interview (which you have cherry-picked quotes from) he calls him a monster. So far so good.
- He also acknowledges that some people took Harvey up on his deal. I assume that he has some firsthand knowledge of this from having worked with Harvey himself, so if we take this at face value it is simply reporting fact. We don&#039;t have to like it, we can feel repulsed by it, but it&#039;s not like Terry Gilliam is the one who made it happen, so why are we getting mad at him for telling the truth?
- He acknowledges that rape is worse than patting someone&#039;s butt. That&#039;s self-evident, and acknowledging that one form of assault is drastically worse than another does not mitigate or justify either one. So what is he &#039;not getting&#039; here? That all inappropriate behavior should be confronted &#038; eradicated? It&#039;s literally the next sentence he says. It seems like the only way to interpret this as him &#039;not getting it&#039; is to say that because both are assaults, both *are* equal. Which seems to be exactly the kind of mob mentality he is warning against.

I read this as him pointing out that every system has its flaws that must be addressed in order for us to move forward. The flaw of the justice system, as we’re all too aware, is that it is very hard to women who have been assaulted to be heard. What makes #metoo great is that it gives them a worldwide forum to speak their truth and make themselves heard. But it also isn’t hard to see how it could be deliberately misused by someone acting in bad faith — its flaw is that, like all social media, it’s unregulated.  There’s no due process, and anything that ignores that in favor of angry shouting IS mob rule by definition, so he’s not wrong to point it out any more than it’s wrong to say that the justice system has failed women with legitimate complaints.

I support #metoo. I also support due process. How we reconcile them, I have no idea, but I know it doesn’t start with ignoring the conflict between the two. Maybe instead of shouting Terry Gilliam down for pointing out facts, we should acknowledge his POV has some merit and build off it to strengthen the cause.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I respectfully disagree, Charles. Let&#8217;s take a look at what he said.</p>
<p>&#8211; He acknowledges that the people Harvey preyed on were victims. In the original interview (which you have cherry-picked quotes from) he calls him a monster. So far so good.<br />
&#8211; He also acknowledges that some people took Harvey up on his deal. I assume that he has some firsthand knowledge of this from having worked with Harvey himself, so if we take this at face value it is simply reporting fact. We don&#8217;t have to like it, we can feel repulsed by it, but it&#8217;s not like Terry Gilliam is the one who made it happen, so why are we getting mad at him for telling the truth?<br />
&#8211; He acknowledges that rape is worse than patting someone&#8217;s butt. That&#8217;s self-evident, and acknowledging that one form of assault is drastically worse than another does not mitigate or justify either one. So what is he &#8216;not getting&#8217; here? That all inappropriate behavior should be confronted &amp; eradicated? It&#8217;s literally the next sentence he says. It seems like the only way to interpret this as him &#8216;not getting it&#8217; is to say that because both are assaults, both *are* equal. Which seems to be exactly the kind of mob mentality he is warning against.</p>
<p>I read this as him pointing out that every system has its flaws that must be addressed in order for us to move forward. The flaw of the justice system, as we’re all too aware, is that it is very hard to women who have been assaulted to be heard. What makes #metoo great is that it gives them a worldwide forum to speak their truth and make themselves heard. But it also isn’t hard to see how it could be deliberately misused by someone acting in bad faith — its flaw is that, like all social media, it’s unregulated.  There’s no due process, and anything that ignores that in favor of angry shouting IS mob rule by definition, so he’s not wrong to point it out any more than it’s wrong to say that the justice system has failed women with legitimate complaints.</p>
<p>I support #metoo. I also support due process. How we reconcile them, I have no idea, but I know it doesn’t start with ignoring the conflict between the two. Maybe instead of shouting Terry Gilliam down for pointing out facts, we should acknowledge his POV has some merit and build off it to strengthen the cause.</p>
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		By: Daniel Strange		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2018 22:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I respectfully disagree, Charles. Let&#039;s take a look at what he said.

- He acknowledges that the people Harvey preyed on were victims. In the original interview (which you have cherry-picked quotes from) he calls him a monster. So far so good.
- He also acknowledges that some people took Harvey up on his deal. I assume that he has some firsthand knowledge of this from having worked with Harvey himself, so if we take this at face value it is simply reporting facr. We don&#039;t have to like it, we can feel repulsed by it, but it&#039;s not like Terry Gilliam is the one who made it happen, so why are we getting mad at him for telling the truth?
- He acknowledges that rape is worse than patting someone&#039;s butt. That&#039;s self-evident, and acknowledging that one form of assault is drastically worse than another does not mitigate or justify either one. So what is he &#039;not getting&#039; here? That all inappropriate behavior should be confronted &#038; eradicated? It&#039;s literally the next sentence he says. It seems like the only way to interpret this as him &#039;not getting it&#039; is to say that because both are assaults, both *are* equal. Which seems to be exactly the kind of mob mentality he is warning against.

I read this as him pointing out that every system has its flaws that must be addressed in order for us to move forward. The flaw of the justice system, as we’re all too aware, is that it is very hard to women who have been assaulted to be heard. What makes #metoo great is that it gives them a worldwide forum to speak their truth and make themselves heard. But it also isn’t hard to see how it could be deliberately misused by someone acting in bad faith — its flaw is that, like all social media, it’s unregulated.  There’s no due process, and anything that ignores that in favor of angry shouting IS mob rule by definition, so he’s not wrong to point it out any more than it’s wrong to say that the justice system has failed women with legitimate complaints.

I support #metoo. I also support due process. How we reconcile them, I have no idea, but I know it doesn’t start with ignoring the conflict between the two. Maybe instead of shouting Terry Gilliam down for pointing out facts, we should acknowledge his POV has some merit and build off it to strengthen the cause. 

“Those who failed to oppose me, who readily agreed with me, accepted all my views, and yielded easily to my opinions, were those who did me the most injury, and were my worst enemies, because, by surrendering to me so easily, they encouraged me to go too far... I was then too powerful for any man, except myself, to injure me.” - Napoleon Bonaparte]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I respectfully disagree, Charles. Let&#8217;s take a look at what he said.</p>
<p>&#8211; He acknowledges that the people Harvey preyed on were victims. In the original interview (which you have cherry-picked quotes from) he calls him a monster. So far so good.<br />
&#8211; He also acknowledges that some people took Harvey up on his deal. I assume that he has some firsthand knowledge of this from having worked with Harvey himself, so if we take this at face value it is simply reporting facr. We don&#8217;t have to like it, we can feel repulsed by it, but it&#8217;s not like Terry Gilliam is the one who made it happen, so why are we getting mad at him for telling the truth?<br />
&#8211; He acknowledges that rape is worse than patting someone&#8217;s butt. That&#8217;s self-evident, and acknowledging that one form of assault is drastically worse than another does not mitigate or justify either one. So what is he &#8216;not getting&#8217; here? That all inappropriate behavior should be confronted &amp; eradicated? It&#8217;s literally the next sentence he says. It seems like the only way to interpret this as him &#8216;not getting it&#8217; is to say that because both are assaults, both *are* equal. Which seems to be exactly the kind of mob mentality he is warning against.</p>
<p>I read this as him pointing out that every system has its flaws that must be addressed in order for us to move forward. The flaw of the justice system, as we’re all too aware, is that it is very hard to women who have been assaulted to be heard. What makes #metoo great is that it gives them a worldwide forum to speak their truth and make themselves heard. But it also isn’t hard to see how it could be deliberately misused by someone acting in bad faith — its flaw is that, like all social media, it’s unregulated.  There’s no due process, and anything that ignores that in favor of angry shouting IS mob rule by definition, so he’s not wrong to point it out any more than it’s wrong to say that the justice system has failed women with legitimate complaints.</p>
<p>I support #metoo. I also support due process. How we reconcile them, I have no idea, but I know it doesn’t start with ignoring the conflict between the two. Maybe instead of shouting Terry Gilliam down for pointing out facts, we should acknowledge his POV has some merit and build off it to strengthen the cause. </p>
<p>“Those who failed to oppose me, who readily agreed with me, accepted all my views, and yielded easily to my opinions, were those who did me the most injury, and were my worst enemies, because, by surrendering to me so easily, they encouraged me to go too far&#8230; I was then too powerful for any man, except myself, to injure me.” &#8211; Napoleon Bonaparte</p>
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		By: Knight Rider		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2018 21:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;he now joins the ranks of many prominent men in the industry that just don’t get it. &quot;

Yeah! What a shame too.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;he now joins the ranks of many prominent men in the industry that just don’t get it. &#8221;</p>
<p>Yeah! What a shame too.</p>
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