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	Comments on: SXSW &#8217;12 Review: HBO Series &#8216;Girls&#8217; Solidifies Lena Dunham&#8217;s Place As A Bold New Voice in American Comedy	</title>
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		By: LA2000		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2016 04:22:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Glad to hear this turned out great.  But I was a fan of &#034;Tiny Furniture&#034; and was really rooting for &#034;Girls.&#034;

I am, however, hating the fact that Dunham is looking increasingly airbrushed in the press photos. Her &#034;flaws&#034; are her charms.  Scrubbing them away may be the natural inclination of a robotic marketing department in &#034;Sex and the City&#034; mode, but it undermines the authenticity of the project and her brand.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad to hear this turned out great.  But I was a fan of &quot;Tiny Furniture&quot; and was really rooting for &quot;Girls.&quot;</p>
<p>I am, however, hating the fact that Dunham is looking increasingly airbrushed in the press photos. Her &quot;flaws&quot; are her charms.  Scrubbing them away may be the natural inclination of a robotic marketing department in &quot;Sex and the City&quot; mode, but it undermines the authenticity of the project and her brand.</p>
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		By: the problem		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[the problem]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2016 04:22:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It&#x27;s weak to sweepingly dismiss all detractors of a person widely labeled  &#034;the new voice of a generation&#034; and &#034;the voice of the modern female.&#034; Those labels are purposely divisive, totally premature, possibly dead wrong. And yes, Criterion&#x27;s endorsement of Tiny Furniture,  essentially a college thesis attempt, is also kindling for the fire of Dunham skepticism. It&#x27;s no secret that Criterion&#x27;s announcement caused a number of &#034;indie&#034; filmmakers and producers, not just internet commenters, to exclaim, &#034;what?!&#034; and &#034;really?!&#034;   

 A core problem with Dunham is that she&#x27;s shrewdly apolitical at a period in history when corruption and class conflict, both nationally and internationally, are raging with no end in sight, and when much of America&#x27;s youth population is suffering economically and without much authentic representation and &#034;voice&#034; on TV. There also seems to be an amnesia among pop culture writers on the accomplishments of many female comedian pioneers and female actors in the &#x27;60s, &#x27;70s, and &#x27;80s, ones who didn&#x27;t solely rely on eternal debates and feelings about sex and dating, or who did so at least in hope of progressing discourse, which they did. A similar argument could be made about the acclaim for Bridesmaids: it&#x27;s success was seen as more of a success by those who took the bait of recent, overly reported social media drivel that said  &#034;women are not funny&#034; and &#034;women can&#x27;t, don&#x27;t, and must never fart.&#034; Many women seemed to meet the movie&#x27;s accomplishments with &#034;Gee, thanks?&#034;  

Even the name of Dunham&#x27;s series &#034;Girls&#034; suggests a limited scope---20 and 30something &#034;girls&#034; on a couch gossiping about boys, albeit with Brooklyn art references subbing for Manhattan shoe fetishes. HBO seems to be saying, SITC was what women used to be, we&#x27;re almost embarrassed we were responsible, and now, Girls is what women are now.  

As the so-called &#034;voice of a generation,&#034; Dunham&#x27;s concerns so far are primarily based around sex and her hot-cold experiences of NYC privilege. The latter seems to get a pass, fine, but is her acclaimed writing and insight that much different from fat comedians who base entire acts and careers around being overweight, or black comedians in 2012 who, by choice or financial incentive, base comedy around race? Or Southern comedians who make irritating, winking lower-class observations? Many of Dunham&#x27;s critics just think she&#x27;s boring, predictable, and a little against-the-grain, all things considered in a decade of protests, wars, and turmoil. 

Toss in a major newscaster&#x27;s daughter-turned-comedian, who is similarly unproven (her YouTube video is dime a dozen), and it&#x27;s tremendously conceded to argue Dunham and Girls isn&#x27;t a byproduct, however well-produced, of New York&#x27;s incestuous, exceedingly out-to-a-$200-lunch media and social culture.   

Dave Chappelle, for example, was the voice of a generation. Dunham, for the time being, is the witty voice of a percent.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#x27;s weak to sweepingly dismiss all detractors of a person widely labeled  &quot;the new voice of a generation&quot; and &quot;the voice of the modern female.&quot; Those labels are purposely divisive, totally premature, possibly dead wrong. And yes, Criterion&#x27;s endorsement of Tiny Furniture,  essentially a college thesis attempt, is also kindling for the fire of Dunham skepticism. It&#x27;s no secret that Criterion&#x27;s announcement caused a number of &quot;indie&quot; filmmakers and producers, not just internet commenters, to exclaim, &quot;what?!&quot; and &quot;really?!&quot;   </p>
<p> A core problem with Dunham is that she&#x27;s shrewdly apolitical at a period in history when corruption and class conflict, both nationally and internationally, are raging with no end in sight, and when much of America&#x27;s youth population is suffering economically and without much authentic representation and &quot;voice&quot; on TV. There also seems to be an amnesia among pop culture writers on the accomplishments of many female comedian pioneers and female actors in the &#x27;60s, &#x27;70s, and &#x27;80s, ones who didn&#x27;t solely rely on eternal debates and feelings about sex and dating, or who did so at least in hope of progressing discourse, which they did. A similar argument could be made about the acclaim for Bridesmaids: it&#x27;s success was seen as more of a success by those who took the bait of recent, overly reported social media drivel that said  &quot;women are not funny&quot; and &quot;women can&#x27;t, don&#x27;t, and must never fart.&quot; Many women seemed to meet the movie&#x27;s accomplishments with &quot;Gee, thanks?&quot;  </p>
<p>Even the name of Dunham&#x27;s series &quot;Girls&quot; suggests a limited scope&#8212;20 and 30something &quot;girls&quot; on a couch gossiping about boys, albeit with Brooklyn art references subbing for Manhattan shoe fetishes. HBO seems to be saying, SITC was what women used to be, we&#x27;re almost embarrassed we were responsible, and now, Girls is what women are now.  </p>
<p>As the so-called &quot;voice of a generation,&quot; Dunham&#x27;s concerns so far are primarily based around sex and her hot-cold experiences of NYC privilege. The latter seems to get a pass, fine, but is her acclaimed writing and insight that much different from fat comedians who base entire acts and careers around being overweight, or black comedians in 2012 who, by choice or financial incentive, base comedy around race? Or Southern comedians who make irritating, winking lower-class observations? Many of Dunham&#x27;s critics just think she&#x27;s boring, predictable, and a little against-the-grain, all things considered in a decade of protests, wars, and turmoil. </p>
<p>Toss in a major newscaster&#x27;s daughter-turned-comedian, who is similarly unproven (her YouTube video is dime a dozen), and it&#x27;s tremendously conceded to argue Dunham and Girls isn&#x27;t a byproduct, however well-produced, of New York&#x27;s incestuous, exceedingly out-to-a-$200-lunch media and social culture.   </p>
<p>Dave Chappelle, for example, was the voice of a generation. Dunham, for the time being, is the witty voice of a percent.</p>
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		By: Cinematic_High		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2016 04:22:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[She&#x27;s a tremendous talent....and I look forward to this show.....and her lovely figure.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She&#x27;s a tremendous talent&#8230;.and I look forward to this show&#8230;..and her lovely figure.</p>
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		By: Kate		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2016 04:22:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Awesome! Definitely looking forward to watching this.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome! Definitely looking forward to watching this.</p>
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