Comments on: So It’s Not The Riddler: Ten Candidates For The Villain In ‘The Dark Knight Rises’

By: Evan M

Evan M — Fri, 13 May 2016 15:40:43 +0000

Did anyone think of Bane here. Butchered in Batman and Robin enough time might have passed to bring in the Man who Broke the Bat.
For those of you who don\’t know Bane grew up in prison. feeling the world owed him one he declares himself king of Gotham more or less. It could work in the Nolan universe. Make a guy super hooked on a newer better steroids. AND HE IS NOT AN IDIOT he is quite smart.
Tom Hardy could certainly do it.

By: Mike S.

Mike S. — Fri, 13 May 2016 15:40:43 +0000

I increasingly think that Tom Hardy will be playing Hugo Strange. The notion of a psychologist called in to help find Batman seems plausible considering where things left off.

By: weird guy with no pseudo

weird guy with no pseudo — Fri, 13 May 2016 15:40:43 +0000

Nolan already said he didn\’t like the Penguin :
http://blog.moviefone.com/2006/10/14/chris-nolan-says-no-to-the-penguin/

By: MonsterKilledThePilot

MonsterKilledThePilot — Fri, 13 May 2016 15:40:43 +0000

Agree. Hugo Strange is a strong possibility.

By: Nanz

Nanz — Fri, 13 May 2016 15:40:43 +0000

Nolan isn\’t penguin or Catwoman since he found the Halle Berry film ruined the character.
The villain seems more likely to be Black Mask because of the whole \’grounded with reality thing\’ but with a new female lead it could mean possibly Talia Al Ghul

By: fearlessweaver

fearlessweaver — Fri, 13 May 2016 15:40:43 +0000

I also think Strange is a strong possibility, though not necessarily played by Hardy. Also, didn\’t Nolan\’s comments strongly suggest that we would see one the prior villans return. We KNOW it won\’t be the Joker (don\’t we?) and we think that Ra and Two-Face are both dead (right?). Scarecrow seems like a pretty minor player. Finally, I think Catwoman could really work; she is in every way Batman\’s equal.

By: Katie Walsh

Katie Walsh — Fri, 13 May 2016 15:40:43 +0000

An enormously illuminating piece for someone like me, who doesn\’t know the entire Batman universe.Thanks Oli!

By: Gabe Toro

Gabe Toro — Fri, 13 May 2016 15:40:43 +0000

I hope he plays King Tut.

By: jon

jon — Fri, 13 May 2016 15:40:43 +0000

I hope Scarecrow has some sort of role.

By: JMorton

JMorton — Fri, 13 May 2016 15:40:43 +0000

I think the central storyline of the cops chasing Batman will carry through and because it won\’t be Gordon, it will be someone else. Harvey Bullock is the perfect fit and I reckon Tom Hardy will be playing him.

I think that this article nails it with Black Mask/Catwoman as the combo too. It\’s not that far fetched. In the comics, Black Mask\’s goons are the False Face society which would allow Nolan to introduce other villains in a minor way, likely Catwoman and maybe even goons like Firefly, etc. Also, what makes Black Mask such a fit for the villain is the mask symbolism and the fact that his gripe is not with Batman, but with Bruce Wayne. Similarly, the whole Catwoman/Batman and Bruce Wayne/Selina Kyle relationships will serve this type of storyline too.

And with Nolan\’s mention of bringing back characters I\’d be very surprised not to see at least a small appearance from Scarecrow. Especially if the film does go balls to the wall with mask symbolism.

By: may lee deen

may lee deen — Fri, 13 May 2016 15:40:43 +0000

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By: rodie

rodie — Fri, 13 May 2016 15:40:43 +0000

Hush or Black Mask could be really cool as the lead villain with Catwoman/Selina Kyle in a supporting femme fatale role, a new D.A. or detective who wants to find Batman at all costs, and a cameo from Scarecrow again.

I\’d personally rather see Tom Hardy as the D.A. or detective obsessed with finding Batman\’s identity than as the \”main villain,\” but that\’s just me…

My only concern with Hush and Black Mask are the backstories. If Nolan uses either of those guys I really hope they drop the whole \”Bruce and he knew each other in the past\” angle. That kind of thing always seems cheesy and soap opera-esque to me.

By: copper

copper — Fri, 13 May 2016 15:40:43 +0000

also a point against the use of catwoman:

you simply can\’t excape the sexual subtext, and sex isn\’t really an interest of nolan.

By: copper

copper — Fri, 13 May 2016 15:40:43 +0000

I forgot:

hush is basically a poor man\’s bane. similar scheme.
bane is a great character – as is the knighfall-story- , but works only in the context of his release of the arkham asylum inmates and the tie-in of azraels actions and his 2.0 version of batman (which is basically also a dark mirror to batman with the religious fanatism twist). breaking the back of batman is also too dark, even for nolan.

By: Thomas N.

Thomas N. — Fri, 13 May 2016 15:40:43 +0000

Catwoman is surely in this….Hardy is most probably the new White Knight……

By: Donkeyrider

Donkeyrider — Fri, 13 May 2016 15:40:43 +0000

If Nolan\’s going for themes of a city turned to chaos, corruption, escalation, the Mutants (army of punks from Dark Knight Returns) led by The Leader, would fit in nicely. Plausible, frightening, formidable and redeemable. Plus they leave room to have a recognizable villain go for the theatrics on the side.

By: Max

Max — Fri, 13 May 2016 15:40:43 +0000

The Penguin\’s real name is Oswald Cobblepot, not Copperpot.

By: BradZuhl

BradZuhl — Fri, 13 May 2016 15:40:43 +0000

If Nolan thinks Halle Berry ruined Catwoman, what better way to reclaim the character than for him to make her cool again? The problem with most classic Batman villains is that they\’re a joke, like The Penguin and The Riddler. And any of the newer villains are just not going to hold much interest for the general public. I think he\’s got to go with an iconic character like Catwoman and do for her what he did for The Joker.

By: Nik

Nik — Fri, 13 May 2016 15:40:43 +0000

I think they should just go back and re-think it and use The Riddler.

Gotham is trying to hunt down Batman.

Who knows Batman\’s identity? The Riddler. Gotham City favors a shining white knight for finding the dark one, the dark knight has to defeat the false white knight to protect the city.

Cast a chick so there\’s breasts and a dress.

Plot. Chick. Blockbuster.

By: Nik

Nik — Fri, 13 May 2016 15:40:43 +0000

Gotham City is led to believe that Batman has killed Harvey Dent and the GPD is now hunting down the Dark Knight for vigilantism.
In the end of TDK; at the remains of the building where Rachel died, Batman finds Harvey Dent, now Two-Face, holding Gordon and his family at gunpoint. Two-Face judges the fate of Batman, himself, and Gordon\’s son with three coin tosses. As the result of the first two flips, he shoots Batman in the abdomen and spares himself. Flipping the coin to determine the boy\’s fate, Two-Face is tackled over the side by a wounded Batman, who was wearing body armor, resulting in Two-Face\’s death.
Knowing that the citizens of Gotham will lose hope and all morale if Harvey\’s rampage becomes known, Gordon is convinced by Batman to hold Batman publicly responsible for the murders. The police swarm the building, and a manhunt for Batman ensues. Gordon later delivers the eulogy at Harvey\’s funeral and smashes the Bat-Signal, while Alfred destroys a letter by Rachel for Bruce revealing her plans to marry Harvey.
What could pose as a plot for the third film? The truth becoming exposed by a cyber-terrorist threatening to expose that truth.
If Gotham City is on the lookout for the Batman, who was the most famous Batman villain to decipher Batman’s identity? The Riddler.
It’s a nice twist. The Riddler would have all of the power in his favor, if he held the two truths Batman didn’t want to be exposed in his hand.
At first, I thought they would have Two-Face be the final villain for the third installment. This was before I saw TDK, but in the film he dies, which I didn’t see coming. It shattered my idea for a third film ever since, but if they retold the Riddler’s story, I think it’d be somewhat convincing.
I just think they shouild really re-think this whole No-Riddler thing.