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	Comments on: Review: &#8216;Red Tails&#8217; Is A Hoary Mixture Of Jingoistic Clichés &#038; Newfangled Technology	</title>
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		By: iceman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[iceman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 May 2016 13:09:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[you guys dont get it. he&#x2F;she may have been off in their thing about &#x27;germans being gunned down&#x27;. vs nazis vs whatever. thats only the tip of the iceberg. take the scene where they try to ID a civilian transport vs a military transport. thats complete, utter horse shit. the allies in europe had &#x27;free fire&#x27; zones, where anything that moved, was supposed to be obliterated. you can read about it in Chuck Yeager&#x27;s autobiography and how he felt it was in the same neighborhood as a war crime. 

the comment about &#x27;someone should have died by now&#x27; is spot on. people died in training, people died ferrying the planes across the ocean (women, in the WASP service by the way), people died taking off, people died landing, people died from mechanical faults, people sometimes even died in combat. people died bailing out, people died being shot after bailing out, people died from failed parachutes, people died after hitting the ground wrong. the casualty rate for air crews like this was incredibly high, but we dont see anyone die until over an hour into the movie. its absolutely idiotic and inexcusable for anything pretending to be even quasi historical to represent combat like this, unless it is a kids show like GI Joe (which famously never showed death on screen, only people bailing out, good and bad guys).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you guys dont get it. he&#x2F;she may have been off in their thing about &#x27;germans being gunned down&#x27;. vs nazis vs whatever. thats only the tip of the iceberg. take the scene where they try to ID a civilian transport vs a military transport. thats complete, utter horse shit. the allies in europe had &#x27;free fire&#x27; zones, where anything that moved, was supposed to be obliterated. you can read about it in Chuck Yeager&#x27;s autobiography and how he felt it was in the same neighborhood as a war crime. </p>
<p>the comment about &#x27;someone should have died by now&#x27; is spot on. people died in training, people died ferrying the planes across the ocean (women, in the WASP service by the way), people died taking off, people died landing, people died from mechanical faults, people sometimes even died in combat. people died bailing out, people died being shot after bailing out, people died from failed parachutes, people died after hitting the ground wrong. the casualty rate for air crews like this was incredibly high, but we dont see anyone die until over an hour into the movie. its absolutely idiotic and inexcusable for anything pretending to be even quasi historical to represent combat like this, unless it is a kids show like GI Joe (which famously never showed death on screen, only people bailing out, good and bad guys).</p>
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		By: hank		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hank]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 May 2016 13:09:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[lets have another &#034;Germans weren&#x27;t really responsible for the atrocities of WW2&#034; conversation.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lets have another &quot;Germans weren&#x27;t really responsible for the atrocities of WW2&quot; conversation.</p>
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		By: JoJo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JoJo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 May 2016 13:09:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&#034;It&#x27;s hard to pump your fist with quite so much glee when the airmen take out an airbase full of Germans, knowing that many of them weren&#x27;t in tune, ideologically, with the Nazis, but were, just like our heroes, men in uniform following orders.&#034;

Ummm...what?  You seem to be saying that it would have been BETTER if they were &#034;in tune&#034; with Nazi ideology.  I know that can&#x27;t be what you meant, but because the sentence is so poorly constructed, that&#x27;s what it seems like.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;It&#x27;s hard to pump your fist with quite so much glee when the airmen take out an airbase full of Germans, knowing that many of them weren&#x27;t in tune, ideologically, with the Nazis, but were, just like our heroes, men in uniform following orders.&quot;</p>
<p>Ummm&#8230;what?  You seem to be saying that it would have been BETTER if they were &quot;in tune&quot; with Nazi ideology.  I know that can&#x27;t be what you meant, but because the sentence is so poorly constructed, that&#x27;s what it seems like.</p>
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		By: Arielle		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Arielle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 May 2016 13:09:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#x27;ll actually finish your sub-par review when I can get past all of the grammatical errors and misspellings.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#x27;ll actually finish your sub-par review when I can get past all of the grammatical errors and misspellings.</p>
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