Comments on: Review & Recap: ‘Game Of Thrones’ Season 3 Episode 10, ‘Mhysa’ Draws Things To A Close (For Now)

By: MrMan

MrMan — Fri, 13 May 2016 09:44:30 +0000

FACTCHECK: Those daggers that Sam used to kill the white walker and that he gives to Bran&Co? Those aren't dragon claws, they're obsidian. http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Dragonglass

By: Kristoph

Kristoph — Fri, 13 May 2016 09:44:30 +0000

Walder Frey says "Edmure Tully is spending his wedding night in a dungeon"

By: patchthehavoc

patchthehavoc — Fri, 13 May 2016 09:44:30 +0000

Davos seriously asks all the best questions: I don't know why there's a "g" in "night" either.

Edmure survives: he's the Lord of Riverrun now, and as long as he remains a Lannister hostage — aka ALIVE — they retain control of the Riverlands.

I kind of can't deal with Jaime making it back to King's Landing this episode. He's not supposed to be here this soon! And that Cersei/Jaime scene was THE WORST. If you're going to have them meet up at this point… have it come with more payoff than inscrutable eye contact.

By: sof

sof — Fri, 13 May 2016 09:44:30 +0000

Your write-up is FAR more entertaining/clever than the actual episode — I was disappointed by the ep's lack of significant development, though I guess the silver lining is I now don't care that I have to wait a year.. hope next season starts off with the bang the finale was missing.

By: Robbie Ness

Robbie Ness — Fri, 13 May 2016 09:44:30 +0000

I'm so glad Arya got her chance to use Jaqen's coin and deception to stab the Frey soldiers. When she escaped Harrenhal, she was supposed to kill the soldier at the gate in the same manner and I was kind of miffed that we didn't get to see it. Glad that they hadn't cut the scene altogether, but simply shifted it to another event – even with the event not happening in the books, I think it was a great revenge for Robb and Catelyn, and showed us a glimpse of the hardness in Arya Stark.

I only wish we didn't have to wait nine months for season 4 =(

By: Brandt Hardin

Brandt Hardin — Fri, 13 May 2016 09:44:30 +0000

The finale was great but what in the world was in that box the Greyjoys opened? http://dregstudiosart.blogspot.com/2013/06/whats-in-box-spoiler-alert.html

By: donna d

donna d — Fri, 13 May 2016 09:44:30 +0000

Yeah I was a little annoyed but actually completely OVER the WHITE SAVIOR CRAP!!! Really??? That last shot made me want to puke.

By: factsy

factsy — Fri, 13 May 2016 09:44:30 +0000

"It's kind of weird that the show decides to rely on the slightly racist, definitely cliche stereotype of hordes of adoring brown slaves worshipping their white liberator, but it's a moment of true humanity and jubilation, and one for Khaleesi to be rewarded and revel in the success that has come from her sticking so rigidly to her principals and beliefs. "

yea that shit was over-the-top ridiculous. they've been doing that all season. i wonder how they're described in the books

By: IÃ±igo

IÃ±igo — Fri, 13 May 2016 09:44:30 +0000

It's not Melissandre the one who says Davos has been "saved by the fire god you like to mock." It's Stannis himself.

By: JJ

JJ — Fri, 13 May 2016 09:44:30 +0000

"It's kind of weird that the show decides to rely on the slightly racist, definitely cliche stereotype of hordes of adoring brown slaves worshipping their white liberator"
Racism can mean anything you want to these days

By: Lydon

Lydon — Fri, 13 May 2016 09:44:29 +0000

Racism? Really? It didn't even cross my mind. You conveniently ignore the fact that the slave masters were just as "brown" as the slaves are. It's sad that people look for offense when clearly none was intended.

By: Scytale

Scytale — Fri, 13 May 2016 09:44:29 +0000

Oh good grief, seriously stop beating the racism drum for every small sleight. In this story Daenerys rescued these people, and if a woman with 3 dragons had just freed you from servitude – you would worship her as a god no matter what the color of your skin was. As a brown asian myself, who lived in a post-colonial country, I have seen Asians rise because they got past any perceived injustices and moved on. Colonialism was recognized for both its evils and its benefits but success in our current lives meant moving beyond that. It is time the same happened in america – it is pointless to hold the victim card and see racism in everything and blame the "white devil" for all your problems. In modern day america, if you don't make it, it's all on you – any made up ceiling is mostly self-inflicted. Indian, Korean and Jewish americans are actually richer on average in the U.S. than their WASP counterparts. Blacks in america have a much higher average wealth than the average wealth in most African states yet complain much more about how life isn't fair. Life isn't fair get over it and make the best of it – you'll be surprised how far you can go as Asian americans can attest to.

By: Skywalker

Skywalker — Fri, 13 May 2016 09:44:29 +0000

Thanks for taking the time to write the recaps, they're the best part after the show! Very witty and entertaining.

By: Sunya

Sunya — Fri, 13 May 2016 09:44:29 +0000

'It's kind of weird that the show decides to rely on the slightly racist, definitely cliche stereotype of hordes of adoring brown slaves worshiping their white liberator'

Yep.Spot on. Exactly what I thought when I saw that scene.Totally bizarre and over the top.
This episode is one of the more stale/cheesy shows in almost the whole collection..The Jamie/Cersi scene was lacking and so forth.Or maybe nothing will ever top Episode 9's emotional response..theres always next season

By: Josh

Josh — Fri, 13 May 2016 09:44:29 +0000

"Slightly racist" – and to all the comments.. You all need to get over yourselves. I saw no racism in there, if you saw people as humans and not by color then there would be no such thing as racism. You make it racist because you still see color. You're basically creating racism by calling something racist.

Now to my next point just for you people who see color. The slaves captors were also brown. They live in a foreign country. You should actually acknowledge Daenarys, she is a white girl who knows what it's like to be a slave herself – to her brother. So she's saving others. Everyone in the land she's in now are the same color, so stop getting so riled up.

If you can't understand then stop watching Game of Thrones. This isn't the show for you.

By: MK

MK — Fri, 13 May 2016 09:44:29 +0000

The scene at the end looked like the white propaganda films of the 1920's and 40s. It was not beautiful-it was nauseating on several levels. A true white fantasy-a racial caste system has been evident throughout the series. The book does not specify this-why did Nutter? An "old" normal for some-not society. Conscious casting decision-ok, but lets not mince words about what it is. Great writing otherwise, but I wont take part in it for sure next season. It does speak to a larger issue of some whites granting themselves license on what I'm convinced are depictions get off on, and their convenient whiny excuse and denial is.. "well..I voted for Obamaaa.."..and?

By: Jules

Jules — Fri, 13 May 2016 09:44:29 +0000

Forgive me if I sound horribly ignorant, but I personally didn't find the race divide an issue in the last scene. She's freeing slaves all over Essos- so she gets to a city that is predominately brown, so what? That's just the race of that geographic area. Slaver's Bay has Ghiscari heritage, they're a mixed race. They're darker. 100 miles North and she could be liberating people who were lighter in skin tone. She's Valyrian- she's not going to meet many people who are fairer than she is. I think we need to disregard race in this. She's a great leader. She's liberating them they are people who should be free, not because of any race/colonialism thing. Keep in mind that Daenerys was practically a slave to her brother (and even Khal for the first little bit).

"Stop talking about racism and it will go away of its own accord."

By: Mara

Mara — Fri, 13 May 2016 09:44:29 +0000

I didn't think the race thing was a problem… I thought the "over-the-top" nature of the scene didn't come from the race, but from the epic, grand nature of the cinematography and music.

By: A

Fri, 13 May 2016 09:44:29 +0000

Yeah some weirdo race angle there def. Its kinda been there the whole time, i wish they would change it really its a bit perturbing, especially for people coming from a country/learning about sociology of countries with a past colonial history they would know why this is a bit racist, i understand why some people wouldn't see it, guess environment defines your outlook.

By: O.A.

O.A. — Fri, 13 May 2016 09:44:29 +0000

You guys are idiots,you've fully amnesia'd out on the context of that scene. Yall are commenting on the scene as if it exists in a vaccum.

1.) Dyneres was the khalesi and was married to drago, another colored race.

2.) she liberated her slave army in hopes to have enough people to take over westeros

3.) she freed those slaves to engender trust in her new armys new leader. That shes forreal when it comes to the liberation of slaves and standing for freedom.

4.) shes doing everything for power and she wants to be loved by the people she ruled and not hated like her father the mad king.

5.) context context context! I can understand how someone can interpret it as a "white supremacy" angle, but it doesnt really speak to the basic ideas of the story thats been told so far.

By: Katie Walsh

Katie Walsh — Fri, 13 May 2016 09:44:29 +0000

Ok guys, I'm not saying that Danaerys is being racist or even that the show has ill intentions in their presentation of race in this scene. There is, however, a willful naivete about using this "white savior" imagery that has a historically racist context outside of Game of Thrones. We cannot just take media images at face value and just say "oh well it's in this fantastical world, so it's ok," we have to also attempt to understand why a director would decide to cast and shoot a scene like this for mass consumption in 2013. So yes, I know there are a lot of different factors in Danaerys' liberation of the slaves, and I do see her as a positive hero in this scene, but the way the show creators presented it is naive/blind to the problematic imagery that they created. Media images have meaning outside of their text, as everyone puts their own experience and context on it.

However, I'm glad that this discussion came up, always interesting to see what everyone says.

By: Chelsey

Chelsey — Fri, 13 May 2016 09:44:29 +0000

As a person of color, I long for the days when GoT was more subtle with its racism. You know. Like when they altered Drogo/Danny's storyline to make the big bad brown man rape the innocent, lily-white woman instead of sticking with that lame-o consensual sex angle… Or when they completely eliminated two minor, women of color characters (who were powerful, mind you) with very important parts to play and replaced both of them with a lily-white made-up-on-the-spot character who was hated by fans and eventually HAD to be killed off…Or when they killed off another important supporting character who just happened to be a woman of color just for snits and giggles.

(This is, by the way, completely ignoring the source material's audacity to have the brown-skinned Dothraki play Savage, Lustful, Must-Be-Tamed Others…)

All of that I ignored. Or bitched quietly about.
But this?
This?
They legit have the nerve to ignore source material (which clearly states that the slaves were made up of countless ethnicities) and coincidentally turn them into brown and black people? And have these helpless darkies essentially praise/worship that nice white conqueror, lift her up, and call her "Mother"? Then zoom in a way that specifically highlights her whiteness?

Listen to me clearly, white people (I know that saying that is going to sound more racist to some of your ears than all the be I just pointed out, but that's a whole other level of irony).

I understand if this doesn't seem like a big deal to a lot of you. After all, people of color are ungrateful, oversensitive brats who look for racism. Because it's fun instead of hurtful and uncomfortable and (in the many spaces on the Internet) a bit intimidating.

I understand if you think that it's just our Emotional Negro Thinking, and that we know nothing about real racism (unlike completely unbiased you).

I understand if you think art exists in a vacuum and has nothing whatsoever to do with real life, even when it mirrors life exactly.

I understand if your black friend/relative/uncle deems it Not Racist (the rest of us will surely fall in line; we are pretty singular-minded).

I understand if you heard that idiot Morgan Freeman say that ignoring racism will end it (despite the fact that that's never worked with anything ever).

And finally, I understand if race talk makes you uncomfortable. It's an uncomfortable issue for everyone. So is explaining baby-making to small children. But you put on your big person panties and do it, OK? Because you're an adult. And if you can't even recognize the issue or you're spending most of the time gas lighting by trying to convince people that there's nothing to see here…They're just being paranoid… You are, quite simply, being a little shit. We can do better people.