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	Comments on: Producer Says David Fincher Is Averaging 50 Takes Per Scene Shooting &#8216;Gone Girl&#8217;	</title>
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		By: John Brune		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Brune]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2016 03:13:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Fincher can afford to do this type of thing since he shoots digitally and owns stock in Red Digital Cinema.  When you&#x27;re at the top there is very little left to achieve so why not be a nit picky bastard.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fincher can afford to do this type of thing since he shoots digitally and owns stock in Red Digital Cinema.  When you&#x27;re at the top there is very little left to achieve so why not be a nit picky bastard.</p>
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		By: S O		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[S O]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2016 03:13:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[as some one who has been thru 30-40 takes shooting a scene and editing. its generally a lack of rehearsals, lack of committed idea for how it should play out. good actors are just that, and they often turn out near identical performances unless asked to do otherwise. the differences between take 10 and take 15 are usually near nil. wearing your talent down is bad day in and day out.  while complicated long shots can take a lot of takes, simple ones just shouldn&#x27;t be. it also helps to be rolling 2-3 cameras as well. in fact its pretty crazy if you aren&#x27;t.....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>as some one who has been thru 30-40 takes shooting a scene and editing. its generally a lack of rehearsals, lack of committed idea for how it should play out. good actors are just that, and they often turn out near identical performances unless asked to do otherwise. the differences between take 10 and take 15 are usually near nil. wearing your talent down is bad day in and day out.  while complicated long shots can take a lot of takes, simple ones just shouldn&#x27;t be. it also helps to be rolling 2-3 cameras as well. in fact its pretty crazy if you aren&#x27;t&#8230;..</p>
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		By: LA2000		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LA2000]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2016 03:13:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Multiple takes are overrated.

I&#x27;ve been on a set where the director went 78 takes on a single shot and still had to come back the next day and finish it because the actress became so distraught that there was no way to continue.  The problem with excessive takes is that it can severely undermine the confidence of the performers.  It&#x27;s one thing to have to do a shot many times for technical reasons or because the dialog is complicated, lengthy, or difficult to deliver.  Everyone understands that certain shots or moments can be difficult to nail. It&#x27;s another matter entirely to get in the habit of asking the performers to go again and again and again without being able to effectively articulate exactly what it is you need them to do to allow them to move on.

Imagine for a moment that Kevin was required to rewrite this (and every) article 50 (or more times - who knows how long it might take to &#034;get it right&#034;) and the only direction he received was a spartan, &#034;Everyone back to one. Let&#x27;s do that again.&#034; How many versions might he be able to manage before finally feeling like he&#x27;s exhausted for a fresh, better approach, before beginning to question his own efforts (how BAD am I that we still don&#x27;t have it?!), before eventually balking at the apparently senseless repetition?

What&#x27;s that saying about an infinite number of monkeys typing on an infinite number of keyboards producing a work of genius?  

If you are a director who needs to do everything 50 times, you aren&#x27;t a genius, you&#x27;re just a monkey banging on the keys hoping that the odds will eventually favor you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Multiple takes are overrated.</p>
<p>I&#x27;ve been on a set where the director went 78 takes on a single shot and still had to come back the next day and finish it because the actress became so distraught that there was no way to continue.  The problem with excessive takes is that it can severely undermine the confidence of the performers.  It&#x27;s one thing to have to do a shot many times for technical reasons or because the dialog is complicated, lengthy, or difficult to deliver.  Everyone understands that certain shots or moments can be difficult to nail. It&#x27;s another matter entirely to get in the habit of asking the performers to go again and again and again without being able to effectively articulate exactly what it is you need them to do to allow them to move on.</p>
<p>Imagine for a moment that Kevin was required to rewrite this (and every) article 50 (or more times &#8211; who knows how long it might take to &quot;get it right&quot;) and the only direction he received was a spartan, &quot;Everyone back to one. Let&#x27;s do that again.&quot; How many versions might he be able to manage before finally feeling like he&#x27;s exhausted for a fresh, better approach, before beginning to question his own efforts (how BAD am I that we still don&#x27;t have it?!), before eventually balking at the apparently senseless repetition?</p>
<p>What&#x27;s that saying about an infinite number of monkeys typing on an infinite number of keyboards producing a work of genius?  </p>
<p>If you are a director who needs to do everything 50 times, you aren&#x27;t a genius, you&#x27;re just a monkey banging on the keys hoping that the odds will eventually favor you.</p>
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		By: AndrÃ©		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AndrÃ©]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2016 03:13:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well, this is more than necessary when you have Ben Affleck and Tyler Perry in your movie.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, this is more than necessary when you have Ben Affleck and Tyler Perry in your movie.</p>
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		By: Noel		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Noel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2016 03:13:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If doing an average of 50 takes per scene makes the movie better, why is &#x27;The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo&#x27; so shit?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If doing an average of 50 takes per scene makes the movie better, why is &#x27;The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo&#x27; so shit?</p>
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		By: Mr. Gunderson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mr. Gunderson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2016 03:13:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I remember Fincher saying he likes to do a ton of takes ESPECIALLY when there&#x27;s lots of extras. He said because they always overact they tend to just be worn down and act more like humans the more takes you do, and that he always uses the later takes in his movies.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember Fincher saying he likes to do a ton of takes ESPECIALLY when there&#x27;s lots of extras. He said because they always overact they tend to just be worn down and act more like humans the more takes you do, and that he always uses the later takes in his movies.</p>
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		By: hank		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hank]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2016 03:13:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yeah.. not sure why this is such a big deal. &#034;Why does Fincher insist on this method?&#034; Maybe because this method results in movies that are a hundred times better than most of the other dreck we&#x27;re forced to watch each year?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah.. not sure why this is such a big deal. &quot;Why does Fincher insist on this method?&quot; Maybe because this method results in movies that are a hundred times better than most of the other dreck we&#x27;re forced to watch each year?</p>
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		By: Leigh Richert		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Leigh Richert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2016 03:13:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Do you mean 50 takes a shot or a scene?  Because 50 takes a scene could be no big deal, especially if the scene is more than a few script pages long.  Kubrick used to take 50 or more takes a shot, also known as a camera setup, and it drove people crazy.  That&#x27;s why Harvey Keitel quit &#034;Eyes Wide Shut&#034;.  I think this is what you must mean, or else your story isn&#x27;t really much of a story at all.  Therefore, I must add at the end here, get your shit straight, will you?  I mean, come on, a lot of movies have 50 shots a scene in the finished product, if not more, right?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you mean 50 takes a shot or a scene?  Because 50 takes a scene could be no big deal, especially if the scene is more than a few script pages long.  Kubrick used to take 50 or more takes a shot, also known as a camera setup, and it drove people crazy.  That&#x27;s why Harvey Keitel quit &quot;Eyes Wide Shut&quot;.  I think this is what you must mean, or else your story isn&#x27;t really much of a story at all.  Therefore, I must add at the end here, get your shit straight, will you?  I mean, come on, a lot of movies have 50 shots a scene in the finished product, if not more, right?</p>
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		By: CrombyMouse		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CrombyMouse]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2016 03:13:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As long as Fincher provides his top-class movies he can shot up to 1000 of takes.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As long as Fincher provides his top-class movies he can shot up to 1000 of takes.</p>
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		By: Webster Skyhorse		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Webster Skyhorse]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2016 03:13:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If the movie&#x27;s a hit then of course the talent will support Fincher&#x27;s methods. If the movie comes off as limp and the performances deadpan then what actor isn&#x27;t going to be a little cool to it?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the movie&#x27;s a hit then of course the talent will support Fincher&#x27;s methods. If the movie comes off as limp and the performances deadpan then what actor isn&#x27;t going to be a little cool to it?</p>
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		By: SunPapushi		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SunPapushi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2016 03:13:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It works for Fincher but its also why he has trouble getting projects off the ground, especially big budget ones. Studios and producers know his films have a tendency of going over-budget and over-schedule.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It works for Fincher but its also why he has trouble getting projects off the ground, especially big budget ones. Studios and producers know his films have a tendency of going over-budget and over-schedule.</p>
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		By: Alex		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alex]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2016 03:13:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I remember Robert Duvall scoffing at the thought of doing 50 takes for one scene.. it&#x27;s quite absurd as a rule of thumb..  but clearly he knows what he&#x27;s doing.  It just seems to imply a lack of respect for his actor&#x27;s talents.. for their ability to provide him (Fincher) with precisely what he wants.  The opening of &#x27;The Social Network&#x27; was shot 80 or 90 times..  the end result is damn near perfect.  Conflicted &#x27;bout it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember Robert Duvall scoffing at the thought of doing 50 takes for one scene.. it&#x27;s quite absurd as a rule of thumb..  but clearly he knows what he&#x27;s doing.  It just seems to imply a lack of respect for his actor&#x27;s talents.. for their ability to provide him (Fincher) with precisely what he wants.  The opening of &#x27;The Social Network&#x27; was shot 80 or 90 times..  the end result is damn near perfect.  Conflicted &#x27;bout it.</p>
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		By: Jeb		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2016 03:13:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Fincher is the man.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fincher is the man.</p>
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