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	Comments on: MGM Takes A Loss On &#8216;Dragon Tattoo&#8217;: Does This Mean David Fincher Is Out?	</title>
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		By: Adam		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Adam]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2016 04:18:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Only Hollywood execs would consider this a loss, and how is it a loss anyway? You HOPED for 10% more. It still made over 2 1&#x2F;2 times its budget. News flash MGM, that is not a loss in any sense of the word. Lets see Sony&#x2F;MGM...YOU fought against Fincher&#x27;s casting of Mara, who went on to receive an Oscar Nom...YOU made the mistake of releasing a 2 1&#x2F;2hr R-rated crime drama on Christmas Day...YOU were dumb enough to over-project its BO take against monster action flick franchises MI:4 and Sherlock Holmes 2...maybe the problem is YOU.

The only reason I saw this film was because Fincher made it. If they don&#x27;t ask Fincher back, then they shouldn&#x27;t bother making the sequels at all.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only Hollywood execs would consider this a loss, and how is it a loss anyway? You HOPED for 10% more. It still made over 2 1&#x2F;2 times its budget. News flash MGM, that is not a loss in any sense of the word. Lets see Sony&#x2F;MGM&#8230;YOU fought against Fincher&#x27;s casting of Mara, who went on to receive an Oscar Nom&#8230;YOU made the mistake of releasing a 2 1&#x2F;2hr R-rated crime drama on Christmas Day&#8230;YOU were dumb enough to over-project its BO take against monster action flick franchises MI:4 and Sherlock Holmes 2&#8230;maybe the problem is YOU.</p>
<p>The only reason I saw this film was because Fincher made it. If they don&#x27;t ask Fincher back, then they shouldn&#x27;t bother making the sequels at all.</p>
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		By: AbSiddique		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2016 04:18:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If Fincher is not directing the sequels, then I&#x27;m not going to watch them. Straight and simple!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Fincher is not directing the sequels, then I&#x27;m not going to watch them. Straight and simple!</p>
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		By: Corperateshills		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Corperateshills]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2016 04:18:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@HMMM

For all the  Hollywood bashing that the playlist does, this article made me wonder how naive these dudes really are.  Anyone with even a cursory knowledge of Hollywood knows about their dubious accounting.  

If only 5% of movies make a profit how in gods name has Hollywood been able to to say in business for 100 years and turn out hundreds of movies a year.   

This article is attacking a one of the best filmmakers out there today while eating the shit some studio has feed them.  

Trusting the word of a studio executive about profit is like...well, is there anything more naive?? 

also can this fucking business of talking about box-office as the end and be all of a film&#x27;s life.  The movie is going to be generating money for the studios for years to come.  It is a film in the filmography of filmmaker that people will be looking at for years down the road.  Yes every studio wants SHIT tons of money those first two weekend when they keep 90% of the box-office receipt but if Sony and MGM wanted that from this film, they wouldn&#x27;t have made a release date and secondly they wouldn&#x27;t have released a rape revenge movie on Christmas.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@HMMM</p>
<p>For all the  Hollywood bashing that the playlist does, this article made me wonder how naive these dudes really are.  Anyone with even a cursory knowledge of Hollywood knows about their dubious accounting.  </p>
<p>If only 5% of movies make a profit how in gods name has Hollywood been able to to say in business for 100 years and turn out hundreds of movies a year.   </p>
<p>This article is attacking a one of the best filmmakers out there today while eating the shit some studio has feed them.  </p>
<p>Trusting the word of a studio executive about profit is like&#8230;well, is there anything more naive?? </p>
<p>also can this fucking business of talking about box-office as the end and be all of a film&#x27;s life.  The movie is going to be generating money for the studios for years to come.  It is a film in the filmography of filmmaker that people will be looking at for years down the road.  Yes every studio wants SHIT tons of money those first two weekend when they keep 90% of the box-office receipt but if Sony and MGM wanted that from this film, they wouldn&#x27;t have made a release date and secondly they wouldn&#x27;t have released a rape revenge movie on Christmas.</p>
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		By: Huffy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Huffy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2016 04:18:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[For the best in my opinion. 18 Million copies or not that last two books in the series are shit. The first one was little more than so-so pulp mascaraing as important literature but Fincher&#x27;s direction elevated the material greatly. He could do the same with the next two I suppose but I&#x27;d rather see him tackle more challenging projects. He&#x27;s always talking about the difference between &#034;movies&#034; and &#034;films&#034; and I&#x27;d say we&#x27;re about due for a film. The $5 million guarantee will sting but considering Fincher&#x27;s Kubrick&#x2F;Cimino-like tendencies  they&#x27;d probably shave that and more from the budget without him attached.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the best in my opinion. 18 Million copies or not that last two books in the series are shit. The first one was little more than so-so pulp mascaraing as important literature but Fincher&#x27;s direction elevated the material greatly. He could do the same with the next two I suppose but I&#x27;d rather see him tackle more challenging projects. He&#x27;s always talking about the difference between &quot;movies&quot; and &quot;films&quot; and I&#x27;d say we&#x27;re about due for a film. The $5 million guarantee will sting but considering Fincher&#x27;s Kubrick&#x2F;Cimino-like tendencies  they&#x27;d probably shave that and more from the budget without him attached.</p>
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		By: Stevenmarque		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stevenmarque]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2016 04:18:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#x27;m not as qualified to speak so fluently on the fiduciary issues of the first or the potential subsequent films, but as fresh and precious as it may sound to Sony; I was totally seduced by the treatment and casting in term of cogent aesthetics and uncompromising vision. For me, a hard R series with such rich Fincher duende; directing such an emerging Rooney imago is priceless and important as a flag. I&#x27;ll fund the rest to keep all in place just as is. If this exact brand isn&#x27;t worth a 10% sacrifice, then nothing is.  Robert Evans would agree. SM]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#x27;m not as qualified to speak so fluently on the fiduciary issues of the first or the potential subsequent films, but as fresh and precious as it may sound to Sony; I was totally seduced by the treatment and casting in term of cogent aesthetics and uncompromising vision. For me, a hard R series with such rich Fincher duende; directing such an emerging Rooney imago is priceless and important as a flag. I&#x27;ll fund the rest to keep all in place just as is. If this exact brand isn&#x27;t worth a 10% sacrifice, then nothing is.  Robert Evans would agree. SM</p>
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		By: hmmm		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hmmm]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2016 04:18:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		By: rodie		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rodie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2016 04:18:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If this film had been released in summer and the female lead was someone well-known like Natalie or Scarlett, the studio would have made their 10% more. It&#x27;s as simple as that. With this source material, the release date, the lengthy run-time and the cast they had (even Craig isn&#x27;t really a big draw unless he&#x27;s 007), their expectations for box office seemed to be a little unrealistic.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If this film had been released in summer and the female lead was someone well-known like Natalie or Scarlett, the studio would have made their 10% more. It&#x27;s as simple as that. With this source material, the release date, the lengthy run-time and the cast they had (even Craig isn&#x27;t really a big draw unless he&#x27;s 007), their expectations for box office seemed to be a little unrealistic.</p>
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		By: KitCon		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[KitCon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2016 04:18:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If they&#x27;re just looking for an extra 10% or $23M surely they&#x27;ll make that from ancillaries.  It could be another case of murky studio accounting to strengthen their bargaining position, avoid payouts &#038;&#x2F;or taxes.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If they&#x27;re just looking for an extra 10% or $23M surely they&#x27;ll make that from ancillaries.  It could be another case of murky studio accounting to strengthen their bargaining position, avoid payouts &amp;&#x2F;or taxes.</p>
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		By: a		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[a]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2016 04:18:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I loved this movie but please, Playlist, tell me there&#x27;s a good chance there won&#x27;t be sequels. I&#x27;m eager for new stuff from Fincher, Mara, and Craig, not more of the same.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I loved this movie but please, Playlist, tell me there&#x27;s a good chance there won&#x27;t be sequels. I&#x27;m eager for new stuff from Fincher, Mara, and Craig, not more of the same.</p>
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		By: Luis		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Luis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2016 04:18:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Simply the best film to  parade this year at the Oscars, voted as a side runner due to Academy lack of cinematic culture...  and brains!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simply the best film to  parade this year at the Oscars, voted as a side runner due to Academy lack of cinematic culture&#8230;  and brains!</p>
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		By: Nik Grape		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nik Grape]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2016 04:18:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Just re-watched it last night, (the Blu Ray&#x2F;DVD combo edition is spectacular). I really hope Fincher gets to do the sequels (why not shoot them back-to-back to save cost?) because if he&#x27;s out, fuck the sequels. Plain and simple. I doubt fanboys (guess that includes me too, I love this one) would be happy if Fincher stays on as executive producer because everyone pretty much knows that doesn&#x27;t mean shit. Agghh man, I&#x27;m going to keep a close eye on this one, hopefully those DVD&#x2F;Blu Ray numbers are good.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just re-watched it last night, (the Blu Ray&#x2F;DVD combo edition is spectacular). I really hope Fincher gets to do the sequels (why not shoot them back-to-back to save cost?) because if he&#x27;s out, fuck the sequels. Plain and simple. I doubt fanboys (guess that includes me too, I love this one) would be happy if Fincher stays on as executive producer because everyone pretty much knows that doesn&#x27;t mean shit. Agghh man, I&#x27;m going to keep a close eye on this one, hopefully those DVD&#x2F;Blu Ray numbers are good.</p>
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		By: LeonRaymond		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LeonRaymond]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2016 04:18:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@MARY and GABRIEL

Oh God I love you both for pointing those facts out. damn I loved and I mean loved that movie but whose damn idea was it to release it on CHRISTMAS DAY are you kidding me!!!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@MARY and GABRIEL</p>
<p>Oh God I love you both for pointing those facts out. damn I loved and I mean loved that movie but whose damn idea was it to release it on CHRISTMAS DAY are you kidding me!!!!</p>
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		By: Mary		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mary]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2016 04:18:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[R rated movie with two rapes that earned over $230 million is a flop? They should blame themselves for releasing it during Christmas time.]]></description>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cirkusfolk]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 May 2016 04:18:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Can you try to find the Sunday box office articles from around the time Dragon Tattoo came out?  Because I remember in one of them I specifically said the film was gonna flop based on the numbers it was pulling in, and you assured me it would not.  Actually, you may have said something like, it was too early to tell, but you still implied I was wrong.  Doesn&#x27;t appear to be that way now does it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you try to find the Sunday box office articles from around the time Dragon Tattoo came out?  Because I remember in one of them I specifically said the film was gonna flop based on the numbers it was pulling in, and you assured me it would not.  Actually, you may have said something like, it was too early to tell, but you still implied I was wrong.  Doesn&#x27;t appear to be that way now does it.</p>
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