Comments on: ‘Logan,’ ‘Deadpool’ And The Paradox Of The R-Rated Superhero Movie

By: Sabretooth

Sabretooth — Sat, 15 Apr 2017 00:03:00 +0000

I whole heartedly agree! The violence DID hurt the film, the character and not to mention Logan’s death was completely unnecessary-I’ll explain why in that order. The film was supposed to feature a remorseful Logan who wanted better for Laura-giving out violent this film was-I have a very hard time believing that. Logan never liked killing-it was showed strongly in origins. Logan’s death pretty much spat on the very ideals the xmen were built upon. I would’ve kept things pg13 and kept Logan alive. I definitely think the kinda world was a great idea, however. A hopeless future where heroism has almost died is perfect was for mutants to be accepted in the world-the mutants who brought the world back from the brink of destruction. So, I would have had Logan survived, reopen the school, become the new leader of the xmen, make a few more films about the xmen helping to restore the world, finishing professor x’s dream-then, finish the story with with a cosmic threat-ending with a speech from Logan warning every threat that the xmen would always be ready-cue credits: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Gohly48snms.

By: Sam Besser

Sam Besser — Tue, 07 Mar 2017 08:46:00 +0000

I have to disagree. While I do agree that the elements that made the movie R-rated are not what make the movie great, I think they are important for two reasons: First, Mangold has said that they made the movie on condition that it would be R-rated, because he was concerned if they did it as PG13 the studio would push to make the movie more kid-friendly later on, removing a lot of the more adult themes and ideas. For example, a PG13 movie could never have a 12-year-old girl tearing bad guys to shreds with her claws – the possibility of younger teens seeing this as a glorification of violence is too great (and something X-men films have been guilty of in the past). By forcing the R-rating you are ensuring your audience is adult enough to understand the film and appreciate its complex ideas.
Secondly, there is a strong character reason for the graphic violence. Logan has spent his entire life as a violent man, often despite his best intentions. As someone with claws that literally pierce his skin every time he uses them, we’ve never seen a true depiction of how grisly and awful these weapons are. Now we have, and we can better understand how difficult it must be for Logan to live with the violence and carnage he has enacted. Because it’s horrifying.
And finally, come on – there’s no way we can have a real-deal down-and-out Logan without a ton of F-bombs. He’s just that kind of guy!

By: Josh King

Josh King — Tue, 07 Mar 2017 03:31:00 +0000

Man, totally with you about the professor’s profanity. And he gratuitous violence. I knew I was going into an R rated version. But the R rating encompasses a broad spectrum. I thought it would be used more tastefully.

The gore of the opening fight had me worried, folllowed by Wolverine using the F word 10 times in like the 15 min, and finally Professor X dropping f bombs, I actually left. Not angrily, I knew this level of “R” was possible. I just felt like it changed the constancy of them as characters..

By: Dheep' P

Dheep' P — Mon, 06 Mar 2017 23:06:00 +0000

Just saw this about two hours ago and still high on the thrill and excitement of this movie. I have never been a big Jackman /Wolverine or X-men fan Or even much of a Patrick Stewart fan. But I did, for the most part enjoy “The Wolverine”, and knew Mangold could deliver something better. And man, did he !
But I just knew this (Logan)had something more. I had also been reading the early reviews. Even Dhargis from the times grudgingly wrote good stuff about Logan.
Fine job Mr.Jackman & Stewart.

By: Arthur G Pym

Arthur G Pym — Mon, 06 Mar 2017 22:41:00 +0000

Completely agree, found the narrative and thematic beats extremely satisfying but the bursts of cartoonish violence (especially towards the end) were kind of gratuitous and frankly silly in an otherwise grown-up movie.

By: SlamAdams

SlamAdams — Mon, 06 Mar 2017 21:19:00 +0000

In reply to Barry Munkton. Not sure why you read it in the first place.

By: Barry Munkton

Barry Munkton — Mon, 06 Mar 2017 20:36:00 +0000

Please place a spoiler alert warning at the top of this article. I’m pretty sure you just ruined it for me.