Comments on: Joel Schumacher Says He Wanted Nicolas Cage To Play Scarecrow In The Aborted ‘Batman Triumphant’

By: pruebas

pruebas — Fri, 13 May 2016 13:44:05 +0000

To James: this seems to be all true. I´ve been reading the same things (except for Nicholson being under contract and Cage as Scarecrow) since months before premiering B&R (they were planning some of these things before june 1997). But (I think) the fault is (mostly) Schumacher´s, not WB: the B&R Akiva script didn´t have as many jokes, and it sure didn´t have a credit card. By the way, I loved BF.

I also read at least a year before B&R in Variety that Kilmer left B&R because he didn´t want Batman to do sky diving or ice skating (I think other reasons were 10 million, the title, and wanting some friend to do a script rewrite). I didn´t believe it, I thought it to be too ridiculous to be true.

By: MWAnderson

MWAnderson — Fri, 13 May 2016 13:44:05 +0000

@rodie – \”I did not know Nicholson was under contract to appear in a future or future Batman movies. What was Burton thinking in killing off his character if this was the case?\”

I read somewhere at the time of the first Burton Batman film, that one of Nicholson\’s prerequisites for doing the gig was that he died at the end.

Supposedly, if the Scarecrow was to be the main villain in Batman Triumphant then the Joker would have made appearances via hallucinations… with possibly a slightly cryptic ending to the film that involved a scene where the Joker might or might not actually be alive, allowing for some of the hallucinations during the film to actually be real.

All I can say is that I think there were faults on both sides – the studio and Schumacher. Ultimately, let\’s not deride the director too much because things worked out for the best. Without Batman and Robin\’s terrible critical mauling we would never have had a serious reboot with Batman Begins.

By: Angry Fan!

Angry Fan! — Fri, 13 May 2016 13:44:05 +0000

I did disappoint a lot of fans!!! Understatement of the decade!
This man nearly ruined Batman! The only movie that was worse as
a beloved franchise sequel is Indy 4. All I have to say is Thank The Hollywood Gods he never got his hands on Frank Millers DK Returns!!!

By: james

james — Fri, 13 May 2016 13:44:05 +0000

I doubt this is true. He could have said this at anytime in the 8 between \”Batman & Robin\” and \”Batman Begins\” when everyone soured on the character. But only after Nolan resurrected the character does he claim he wanted to do a movie based on Frank Miller\’s book.

By: Ian

Ian — Fri, 13 May 2016 13:44:05 +0000

@rodie

The producers/studio had control of the script at the time, not Burton. Burton had no such power or creative control other than the visuals at the time, he was just a hired hand.

By: Toddrick

Toddrick — Fri, 13 May 2016 13:44:05 +0000

There\’s a \”how did it burn!?\” joke in there somewhere.

By: rodie

rodie — Fri, 13 May 2016 13:44:05 +0000

I did not know Nicholson was under contract to appear in a future or future Batman movies. What was Burton thinking in killing off his character if this was the case?