Comments on: If You Love Movies, Why Ruin Them? When Spoilers Go Too Far

By: Kay

Kay — Mon, 23 May 2016 02:38:42 +0000

I agree with the point on Movie bloggers trying to masquerade as professional outlets these "Scooper" types aren\’t allowed to name a source and are very unprofessional in what they do. It\’s also funny that when the slightest bit of misinformation or decline in comment is made to them they start acting like two year olds who haven\’t gotten their way. Unfortunately the most prominent scoopers on the Internet have suffered from enlarged egos constantly fairly befriending each other but berating each other in the competition to break a story before a major outlet. Unfortunately they don\’t even gain anything from this but mistrust from studios who spend time and money in marketing.

By: doris

doris — Mon, 23 May 2016 02:38:42 +0000

nowadays it feels like the movie itself is an afterthought. the real fun seems to be the scoops, the spoilers, the tweets, the trailer-for-the-trailer, the leaked trailer, the trailer, the hashtags, the anticipation and what-if of it all. the actual viewing of the movie is becoming quite irrelevant.

By: Marshall

Marshall — Mon, 23 May 2016 02:38:42 +0000

Might I suggest you stop covering every bit of superhero news, then? As you acknowledged, this site plays into the hype machine. Rather than complain about the problem, why not be a part of the solution! It\’d certainly make me all the more likely to read and support any site that put out a blanket statement condemning the reporting on every little morsel of knowledge from these tentpoles. All it does is make you free publicity for the studios.

By: ballzdeep

ballzdeep — Mon, 23 May 2016 02:38:42 +0000

Haha, the irony!

This website use to heavily spoil films in the titles of the articles. Just yesterday you posted TMI in a Star Wars post

"Kylo Ren Is Not The Character\’s Birth Name In \’Star Wars: The Force Awakens\’"

Fcuk you Kevin/indiewire

By: doris

doris — Mon, 23 May 2016 02:38:42 +0000

agreed, marshal. superhero movies have become that guy at the cocktail party that was briefly hilarious and fascinating, but is becoming increasingly boorish and annoying and people want him to piss off now.

By: Jared

Jared — Mon, 23 May 2016 02:38:42 +0000

Navel gazing aside, this is an interesting point.

I would argue that many people don\’t mind being spoiled. They want the instant gratification of set and story spoilers. No one is forcing people to be spoiled, or to even read articles that discuss genre movies (in response to Doris above). Basically, if you don\’t want to be spoiled, don\’t go onto certain film/entertainment blogs that you know are more than likely going to spoil plot points. Be an adult and control what content you consume. It really isn\’t terribly difficult. Personally, I enjoy spoilers, and still enjoy the movie even when I know the majority of the plot points going in. It allows to look at the craft being put into the movie and judge if they are telling the story well or not.

By: B Williams

B Williams — Mon, 23 May 2016 02:38:42 +0000

STFU indiewire you guys do this ALLLL the time. Pot calling the kettle black.

By: Marko

Marko — Mon, 23 May 2016 02:38:42 +0000

I\’d say stop covering the Superhero garbage. After all I\’m pretty sure that you, Kevin, do not give two shits about the next Marvel movie, do you?

By: Mustang

Mustang — Mon, 23 May 2016 02:38:42 +0000

To be fair to Kevin, he does acknowledge that Indiewire isn\’t blameless. But I guess you guys just need to someone to attack, right? Also annoying.

By: Pete

Pete — Mon, 23 May 2016 02:38:42 +0000

I assume these article mostly talks about El Mayimbe (El Maybe) who constantly posts these scoops and then goes on tirades when wrong. I remember he seemed pretty cocky and certain that Colin Trevorrow was going to direct Star Wars then announce it at Comic Con… Nothing was mentioned and then he started backtracking on it and didn\’t seem so certain and now shrugs off most mentions of it as "in talks" or \’what he has heard\’. At the end of the day all he did was make himself look stupid and give a reason for more studios to mistrust him. Funnily enough I believe he berated outlets for showing leaked Con footage but is what he does really any different? Very sick of both him and Sneider\’s so-called journalism, they honestly think they are privileged among the industry but actually seem like a laughing stock, there unprofessional digs at other outlets show as much.

By: Fran

Fran — Mon, 23 May 2016 02:38:42 +0000

Why spoil movies? Maybe because there are a LOT of people who want to be spoiled.
Look, in today\’s world it\’s hard to be completely ignorant about a movie you want to see in the near future. For better or for worse, the magic of finding out a movie you\’d love to see only months before it hits theaters is long gone. It\’s sad, but that reality is long past us.
Why scoop? Why look for pictures? or actual scenes of the most awaited movies to come? Because that\’s the society we live in. We want things now. We want to know things in advance. And as long as that demand exists, then spoilers will keep popping up.
Online journalist, (because yes, the people who investigate, ask around and follow information until they find the thing they want to report on ARE journalists) give the public what they want. So why blame them, and not, for instance the great number of people spoiling the season finale of Game of Thrones? The blame, if there\’s any, mind you, is on the people who demand to know more, to be spoiled. The "blame" lies in the society we live in.
So as long as people keep flocking to those reports, reading spoilers and making the visit count to those websites keep rising; then those articles will keep coming. I mean, your website should know, after all, they do report on it, even if they didn\’t get the info first. Or are you saying you, or any of your colleagues would not report on who dies in The Force Awakens, for instance, if you knew it to be 100% accurate?
Spoilers are here to stay. The good thing is, there\’s a trick to ignore most of those spoilers. Don\’t read them.

By: Franklyn

Franklyn — Mon, 23 May 2016 02:38:42 +0000

The best part of this article is El Mayimbe posting on Twitter about it TOTALLY missing the entire point. Guess I\’m not shocked.

By: David S.

David S. — Mon, 23 May 2016 02:38:42 +0000

It\’s deeply ironic for El Mayimbe to focus on the fact that he IS an online journalist. So maybe he is. But does any journalist worth a grain of anything delete his own material if he\’s wrong? Because that\’s what he did. NEVER FORGET: that on instagram he posted that Asa Butterfield HAD scored the Spider-Man gig 100%.

But what happened when Tom Holland eventually got the job? He deleted the instagram post. check it and google it. You\’ll find tons of sites that posted about Butterfield getting the gig off of Mayimbe\’s instagram post, but rather than have "wrong" on his record he quietly deleted it only minutes after Holland was announced.

Does that sound kosher, above board and ethical? Is that what a REAL journalist does?

By: Where Does It End? For REal?

Where Does It End? For REal? — Mon, 23 May 2016 02:38:42 +0000

Wow, it\’s amazing how ppl miss the point here of methodology. I think it\’s clear that every one accepts spoilers to a degree, even this site which it acknowledges. But the umbrage is with the spoiler that just goes to far. I mean, the first 15 minutes of Captain America 3 were just spoiled — what jumpstarts the movie and a major Batman Vs. Superman spoiler was all unveiled. This is beyond like secret casting, and unveiling directors before they care officially announced. I don\’t think there\’s absolutely anything wrong with at least QUESTIONING the harm that\’s being done here and the line that\’s being crossed. Where does it end?

By: Dylan

Dylan — Mon, 23 May 2016 02:38:41 +0000

@ELI. I think it\’s more than just him, that\’s why. There are other\’s that don\’t know the boundaries of a SPOILER TOO FAR. As complex as it all is, the checks and balances and self-policing aspect of this article is the most salient point. Playlist runs some of these, as you note, but they did not run this weeks Batman V. Superman spoiler or Cap 3 spoilers because they ARE a spoiler too far. What this article is asking for, i think, is a line to be drawn. And i think that\’s fair enough.

By: Pete

Pete — Mon, 23 May 2016 02:38:41 +0000

El Mayimbe also said about Asa on Meet the Movie Press still online for the record. I think he was boasting about Kevin Feige even saying that his source was that legit it didn\’t need confirming. I think Hollywood just likes to mess around with the poor guy.

By: Eli

Eli — Mon, 23 May 2016 02:38:41 +0000

Why the writer of the article didn\’t just come out and say, " Stop spoiling the movies, El Mayimbe!"?