–Crom laughs at your four winds! He laughs from his mountain.
–My god is stronger — he is the everlasting sky! Your god lives underneath him.

me i am not surprised by your bias review

as you shit on it going in

Well, that\’s true for Howard\’s Conan stories, since they\’re relatively short (except for one) and episodic. They\’re not novels (except for that one), and so individual ones don\’t have character arcs (for Conan at least). He evolves through many stories, not in just one.

Strike another promising young male lead off the very, very short list remaining.

I hate bad directors with a passion. Why don\’t they stop making movies? For the good of humanity.

Noticeably missing from the review is a comparison to the Howard stories. Advance reports claimed Conan\’s character was better represented here than in the old movies. Well, let others do that.

Anyway, I read a draft of this new Conan a while back and regardless, Conan\’s character was not closer to Howard\’s concept, and neither was anybody else. The script was truly laughably bad. I couldn\’t figure out if they had the rights to the stories, or just the character of Conan, because they took virtually nothing, as far as I could see, from the original stories. For which I presume the shade of Bob Howard, in some high up writer\’s Valhalla, is most grateful!

To say we only like Art House films is to say you know punctuation and how to write proper sentences.

I take issue with a big point, Conan himself. The marketing team forgot what makes a film like Expendables/Conan exceed expectations at the B.O,. the female audience. WOMEN LOVE MEN WITH HOT BODIES. (Don\’t forget us) .

Regarding everyone slamming Conan in 3D, I watched Harry Potter in 3D to me it was not necessay … nor is Conan but it was fun to see snowflakes and heads come at you … ,

so in the end .. Please stick to just giving us information on projects – Your opinion, though interesting to you, makes you looks less credible. (Think before you write)

giving a negative review doesn\’t deprive anybody of credibility. having bad taste, like you, coupled with being a fucking idiot, does deprive you of credibility.

fuck off,
alan

If you can\’t see the massive difference in degree with what was done with Mike Hammer and Mattie Ross, and what was done with Conan, then I\’m afraid I can\’t say anything else. When you have a character who is defined by the fact he was raised free in a harsh land outside the bounds of civilization with only his wits and guts to help him, and decide to turn him into a *civilized slave* who\’s formally tutored by professionals and forced to push a wheel for twenty years, then you haven\’t just made him \”not precisely Howard\’s Conan,\” you\’ve made him practically an inversion of Howard\’s Conan.

How can Conan see the hypocrisies and illusions of the so-called civilized world when he\’s a direct product of them?

He doesn\’t triumph through natural order, he triumphs because he\’s created and honed by civilization. He becomes strong because he\’s a slave forced into pushing a big wheel. He\’s a survivor because he\’s thrown into artificial fighting situations as a pit fighter. He\’s a great warrior because he\’s formally trained, disciplined and taught by civilized warriors. He becomes intelligent because he\’s educated with poetry and philosophy in a cage.

Besides never seeing Conan directly comment on said hypocrisies and illusions (in fact, the only commentary I saw was Subotai\’s \”so this is paradise\” at Doom\’s orgy), if Conan really does feel that, then he\’s the greatest hypocrite and illusion of all, since his entire being is formed by the efforts of civilization. Perhaps his barbaric youth meant he was hardier and tougher than others, but that doesn\’t change the fact that adult Conan is completely defined by civilized men.

It\’s harder to get further from Howard\’s Conan than that. But perhaps we\’re just going to have to agree to disagree.

And Milius\’ Conan may be IN the civilized world, but he\’s not OF it. It\’s too bad Milius\’ King Conan script never got made, where he explored all this a lot further….

Anyway, I think you\’re forgetting a). The opening scene with Conan\’s father, the riddle of steel, and the death of his mother, which I suspect defines the character as much as any of the subsequent things you cited, and b). the Conan of the stories left Cimmeria, came to civilized lands thru his own curiousity, and quickly embraced as much of the civilized world as he could . Howard\’s Conan is a fairly canny individual looking to learn as much as he can, not this Queequeeg type primitive you seem to be describing….

I think some of the dissent regarding Milius\’ version stems from the fact that he drew from several different Howard characters to create the film\’s \”Conan\”, including Bran Mak Morn and King Kull. Conan\’s backstory, for instance, seems to have been inspired by a Kull story wherein Kull states that he was once a galley slave and a gladiator.

Anyway, the Wheel Of Pain scenes and the Pit Fighter montage are just so great that even if they represent complete desecrations of Howard, I\’m still glad to be able to see them. : )