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	Comments on: Elliott Gould Loves It, But Ingmar Bergman Hated &#8216;The Touch&#8217;	</title>
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		By: cinebug		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[“The Touch” by Ingmar Bergman (1971)                                                                            is a film about how the very experience of personal love can heal emotional trauma. Lover as a psychotherapist is not an easy role - in passionate love there is not enough distance for disinterested observation and understanding. But Karin (Bibi Andersson) is able to do the impossible – she transforms the very area of love between two into a magic point of sharing wisdom through her enduring and inexhaustible vulnerability. Her love toward her younger partner in existential encounter is a model of psychological wholeness – it includes romantic, sexual, motherly, purely emotional and intellectual aspects in tune with one another. Bergman demonstrates that sometimes separation of lovers is a victory of love, not a defeat. “The Touch” is Bergman’s “Hiroshima Mon Amour” – another film about personal love as psychotherapy.                                                             &lt;br /&gt;After finishing watching this film you again and again return to the meaning of the characters’ actions and emotions and the film’s visual symbolism, and understand more about their personalities and human life as an incredibly rich and beautiful philosophical drama.                                                                                                                          Please, visit www.actingpitpolitics  to read articles about Bergman’s “Through Glass Darkly” (with analysis of shots from the film), and also analysis of films by Godard, Bunuel, Kurosawa, Alain Tanner, Resnais, Pasolini, Cavani, Bertolucci and Fassbinder.&lt;br /&gt;BY Victor Enyutin]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“The Touch” by Ingmar Bergman (1971)                                                                            is a film about how the very experience of personal love can heal emotional trauma. Lover as a psychotherapist is not an easy role &#8211; in passionate love there is not enough distance for disinterested observation and understanding. But Karin (Bibi Andersson) is able to do the impossible – she transforms the very area of love between two into a magic point of sharing wisdom through her enduring and inexhaustible vulnerability. Her love toward her younger partner in existential encounter is a model of psychological wholeness – it includes romantic, sexual, motherly, purely emotional and intellectual aspects in tune with one another. Bergman demonstrates that sometimes separation of lovers is a victory of love, not a defeat. “The Touch” is Bergman’s “Hiroshima Mon Amour” – another film about personal love as psychotherapy.                                                             <br />After finishing watching this film you again and again return to the meaning of the characters’ actions and emotions and the film’s visual symbolism, and understand more about their personalities and human life as an incredibly rich and beautiful philosophical drama.                                                                                                                          Please, visit <a href="http://www.actingpitpolitics" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.actingpitpolitics</a>  to read articles about Bergman’s “Through Glass Darkly” (with analysis of shots from the film), and also analysis of films by Godard, Bunuel, Kurosawa, Alain Tanner, Resnais, Pasolini, Cavani, Bertolucci and Fassbinder.<br />BY Victor Enyutin</p>
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		By: Anonymous		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 11:44:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[IL TOUCH DI BIBI ANDERSSON&lt;br /&gt;di V.S.Gaudio&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&#034;La ricerca aleatoria di altri frammenti semantici permette al poeta di rinvenire un altro elemento eclatante in questa specularità con Bibi Anderson : il fatto che nel 1971, anno di nascita della ragazza di Göteborg, Bibi Andersson giri con Bergman negli Usa il film The Touch[o: Beroringen], che noi conosciamo nella versione di “L’adultera”, che, in questa ricostruzione semantica, non solo ricostruisce parte della forma segreta dell’Altro, ma fotografa, nella sua immediatezza sintagmatica, la circostanza, la contestualizzazione scenografica dei sensi, in cui l’altro ha detenuto in un sol istante tutto ciò che non ci sarà mai dato di sapere: “Touch” è tatto, tocco, colpetto, dettaglio, contatto, sfumatura; come “to touch” è toccare e “touch off” fare esplodere, provocare, schizzare, e così è lo svedese “Beroringen” .&lt;br /&gt;E’ questo dettaglio dunque che fa abbinare Bibi Andersson alla ragazza di Göteborg: questo tocco, questa densità del toccare, questa qualità frattale, somatognostica, si potrebbe dire, del touch off; che, regola della seduzione, è segreto in questa artificialità terrificante, perché circoscritta, e ancor più folgorante, evidente, per come fa irruzione, sotto forma di un segno, di un gesto, di una forma, allora sul treno, e di una parola, di un titolo di un film, che connette dati, incisi sintagmatici della sequenza, punti temporali, adesso che il poeta cerca di definire in questo tempo in cui l’analemma esponenziale passa al meridiano quella alterità sovrana e fatale della ragazza di Göteborg.&#034;(da: V.S.Gaudio, La ragazza di Goteborg, copyright 2006;vedi anche:V.S.Gaudio, Il fantasma che allunga le gambe verso il poeta, in &#034;www.lunarionuovo.it&#034;n.30, gennaio 2009).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IL TOUCH DI BIBI ANDERSSON<br />di V.S.Gaudio</p>
<p>&quot;La ricerca aleatoria di altri frammenti semantici permette al poeta di rinvenire un altro elemento eclatante in questa specularità con Bibi Anderson : il fatto che nel 1971, anno di nascita della ragazza di Göteborg, Bibi Andersson giri con Bergman negli Usa il film The Touch[o: Beroringen], che noi conosciamo nella versione di “L’adultera”, che, in questa ricostruzione semantica, non solo ricostruisce parte della forma segreta dell’Altro, ma fotografa, nella sua immediatezza sintagmatica, la circostanza, la contestualizzazione scenografica dei sensi, in cui l’altro ha detenuto in un sol istante tutto ciò che non ci sarà mai dato di sapere: “Touch” è tatto, tocco, colpetto, dettaglio, contatto, sfumatura; come “to touch” è toccare e “touch off” fare esplodere, provocare, schizzare, e così è lo svedese “Beroringen” .<br />E’ questo dettaglio dunque che fa abbinare Bibi Andersson alla ragazza di Göteborg: questo tocco, questa densità del toccare, questa qualità frattale, somatognostica, si potrebbe dire, del touch off; che, regola della seduzione, è segreto in questa artificialità terrificante, perché circoscritta, e ancor più folgorante, evidente, per come fa irruzione, sotto forma di un segno, di un gesto, di una forma, allora sul treno, e di una parola, di un titolo di un film, che connette dati, incisi sintagmatici della sequenza, punti temporali, adesso che il poeta cerca di definire in questo tempo in cui l’analemma esponenziale passa al meridiano quella alterità sovrana e fatale della ragazza di Göteborg.&quot;(da: V.S.Gaudio, La ragazza di Goteborg, copyright 2006;vedi anche:V.S.Gaudio, Il fantasma che allunga le gambe verso il poeta, in &quot;www.lunarionuovo.it&quot;n.30, gennaio 2009).</p>
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		By: rodrigoperez		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 18:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Nice post dude, srsly. Great points (and yes, jazz style in &#039;Goodbye,&#039; perf!)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice post dude, srsly. Great points (and yes, jazz style in &#8216;Goodbye,&#8217; perf!)</p>
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		By: jarrett		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 18:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What I found so interesting, when you juxtapose a majority of the films in the retrospective...was just how out of his element Gould was in this picture.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;For the three films with Altman, and I suppose in &#034;Bob &#038; Carol &#038; Ted &#038; Alice&#034; and &#034;Busting&#034;, Gould played it loose, the comedy came from him naturally, I think he even referred to himself when he was at BAM for &#034;The Long Goodbye&#034; as a &#034;jazz actor&#034;, a perfect way to describe his alley-cat-like style.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I think when &#034;The Touch&#034; begins, they’re a few instances of this “jazz” style, but when it shifts, and it certainly does, it’s too jarring for the audience to allow us to follow the picture any further. The fault shouldn’t all be placed on Gould, there are weird tonal shifts throughout, but one can’t help but notice just how ill-fitted he is for this role. The swing it requires in character and attitude, up to that point, they’re was no indication in his work Gould was ready for.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Having been a huge fan of Elliot for a long time now, I am glad I finally get to see this film and understand where he was coming from when he spoke about how affecting “The Touch” was for him, both in his career and life.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I found so interesting, when you juxtapose a majority of the films in the retrospective&#8230;was just how out of his element Gould was in this picture.</p>
<p>For the three films with Altman, and I suppose in &quot;Bob &amp; Carol &amp; Ted &amp; Alice&quot; and &quot;Busting&quot;, Gould played it loose, the comedy came from him naturally, I think he even referred to himself when he was at BAM for &quot;The Long Goodbye&quot; as a &quot;jazz actor&quot;, a perfect way to describe his alley-cat-like style.</p>
<p>I think when &quot;The Touch&quot; begins, they’re a few instances of this “jazz” style, but when it shifts, and it certainly does, it’s too jarring for the audience to allow us to follow the picture any further. The fault shouldn’t all be placed on Gould, there are weird tonal shifts throughout, but one can’t help but notice just how ill-fitted he is for this role. The swing it requires in character and attitude, up to that point, they’re was no indication in his work Gould was ready for.</p>
<p>Having been a huge fan of Elliot for a long time now, I am glad I finally get to see this film and understand where he was coming from when he spoke about how affecting “The Touch” was for him, both in his career and life.</p>
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		By: Reiko		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 18:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[the touch is better the second day. has definitely stayed with me.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the touch is better the second day. has definitely stayed with me.</p>
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