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		By: Da5id		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Da5id]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 May 2016 12:24:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Les Daniels is the racist, he&#x27;s always playing the race card: &#x27;Oh you don&#x27;t like me because I&#x27;m black, right?&#x27;. No, I don&#x27;t like you because &#x27;Precious&#x27; is a piece of crap...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Les Daniels is the racist, he&#x27;s always playing the race card: &#x27;Oh you don&#x27;t like me because I&#x27;m black, right?&#x27;. No, I don&#x27;t like you because &#x27;Precious&#x27; is a piece of crap&#8230;</p>
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		By: Michael		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 May 2016 12:24:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I don&#x27;t know about racism but it sure seems like a sense of fun&#x2F;adventure helps in appreciating this film. The huge number of horrified reviews are making me wonder if campy trash is ever really appreciated in the present day. It seems a little hypocritical for people to enjoy safely canonized works like Rocky Horror Picture Show and Pink Flamingoes and yet be appalled by someone who seems, in my eyes, to be the next John Waters (which I think is great, because John Waters stopped making John Waters movies a long time ago). I liked Precious a lot and I&#x27;m looking forward to The Paperboy, which I view less as the &#034;vital work of an important new black filmmaker&#034; (lol) than the dicking around of a John Waters&#x2F;Almodovar fanboy. I think our mistake in the first place was assuming Lee Daniels ever meant to deliver stone-serious messages on race (why did we assume that about Precious in the first place, by the way? What about that movie didn&#x27;t scream &#034;dark comedy&#034;?). Judging by Precious and what people are saying about this one, Daniels seems to be gleefully anarchic about, well, everything. Which is awesome, because no one else seems to be. Maybe we need a Lee Daniels to help us laugh at these confusing times.

Let me also add, though, that making fun of pretty much everything doesn&#x27;t necessarily preclude occasional seriousness. I don&#x27;t think anyone laughed at Precious being raped by her father, for example. Lee Daniels is working in a very tricky register, where the tone can swing from outright farce to subtle satire to open horror and back again all in a matter of seconds. Some people seem bothered by this, but to me (and others!) it&#x27;s like a cinematic rollercoaster. Maybe not for everyone, but if you&#x27;re on that wavelength, I think Daniels has something to offer you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#x27;t know about racism but it sure seems like a sense of fun&#x2F;adventure helps in appreciating this film. The huge number of horrified reviews are making me wonder if campy trash is ever really appreciated in the present day. It seems a little hypocritical for people to enjoy safely canonized works like Rocky Horror Picture Show and Pink Flamingoes and yet be appalled by someone who seems, in my eyes, to be the next John Waters (which I think is great, because John Waters stopped making John Waters movies a long time ago). I liked Precious a lot and I&#x27;m looking forward to The Paperboy, which I view less as the &quot;vital work of an important new black filmmaker&quot; (lol) than the dicking around of a John Waters&#x2F;Almodovar fanboy. I think our mistake in the first place was assuming Lee Daniels ever meant to deliver stone-serious messages on race (why did we assume that about Precious in the first place, by the way? What about that movie didn&#x27;t scream &quot;dark comedy&quot;?). Judging by Precious and what people are saying about this one, Daniels seems to be gleefully anarchic about, well, everything. Which is awesome, because no one else seems to be. Maybe we need a Lee Daniels to help us laugh at these confusing times.</p>
<p>Let me also add, though, that making fun of pretty much everything doesn&#x27;t necessarily preclude occasional seriousness. I don&#x27;t think anyone laughed at Precious being raped by her father, for example. Lee Daniels is working in a very tricky register, where the tone can swing from outright farce to subtle satire to open horror and back again all in a matter of seconds. Some people seem bothered by this, but to me (and others!) it&#x27;s like a cinematic rollercoaster. Maybe not for everyone, but if you&#x27;re on that wavelength, I think Daniels has something to offer you.</p>
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		By: george wells		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 May 2016 12:24:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[One of the first anti-racist was Leon Trotsky.  He invented the word &#034;racist&#034; as a way to attack people who opposed his multi-racial basis for empire. He is the patron saint of many anti-racists.

We know how that thing with Trotsky and communism worked out with 60 million dead bodies of whites.  RACIST WHITES!!! They didnât even know they were racists but the patron saints of communism did!!!!

Seems the anti-racists are always considered  good intentioned, but leave dead bodies in their wake.
Let&#x27;s just look at the real effects of anti-racism, the real world.  That is way I continue to ask this question:

White countries are being flooded by non-whites. We are told to be TOLERANT. We are forced to integrate. With assimilation we see the
extinction of one race only, the white race.
How is this not genocide?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the first anti-racist was Leon Trotsky.  He invented the word &quot;racist&quot; as a way to attack people who opposed his multi-racial basis for empire. He is the patron saint of many anti-racists.</p>
<p>We know how that thing with Trotsky and communism worked out with 60 million dead bodies of whites.  RACIST WHITES!!! They didnât even know they were racists but the patron saints of communism did!!!!</p>
<p>Seems the anti-racists are always considered  good intentioned, but leave dead bodies in their wake.<br />
Let&#x27;s just look at the real effects of anti-racism, the real world.  That is way I continue to ask this question:</p>
<p>White countries are being flooded by non-whites. We are told to be TOLERANT. We are forced to integrate. With assimilation we see the<br />
extinction of one race only, the white race.<br />
How is this not genocide?</p>
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		By: Andrew		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andrew]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wait a second this is a false argument that can only elicit vicious denial from all. I&#x27;ve read some of the reader responses to the Playlist review of PB which suggest something similar but I think a point is being missed, which is that once upon a time we enjoyed movies like Sweetback, Coffy, Cleopatra Jones, thru to Beyond the valley of the dolls, and Polyester; now we may look back fondly on those films, but that&#x27;s only with hindsight, released today I could imagine them violently dividing audiences in the way PB has. The point for me is that cinema has become far too white, conservative, and safe, it&#x27;s lost it&#x27;s counter culture, it&#x27;s deviance and it&#x27;s sense of danger, partly due to the critics that have become the gate keepers of the art form. We need to loosen up remember the history of film in it&#x27;s entirety and allow other attitudes into the party. I don&#x27;t like how this particular argument is framed in such a way that it can only serve to bring the gates down once again, and equally I don&#x27;t like the fact a movie I want to see and which many people liked, has been beaten to an inch of it&#x27;s life and as far as I know doesn&#x27;t yet have a distributor.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait a second this is a false argument that can only elicit vicious denial from all. I&#x27;ve read some of the reader responses to the Playlist review of PB which suggest something similar but I think a point is being missed, which is that once upon a time we enjoyed movies like Sweetback, Coffy, Cleopatra Jones, thru to Beyond the valley of the dolls, and Polyester; now we may look back fondly on those films, but that&#x27;s only with hindsight, released today I could imagine them violently dividing audiences in the way PB has. The point for me is that cinema has become far too white, conservative, and safe, it&#x27;s lost it&#x27;s counter culture, it&#x27;s deviance and it&#x27;s sense of danger, partly due to the critics that have become the gate keepers of the art form. We need to loosen up remember the history of film in it&#x27;s entirety and allow other attitudes into the party. I don&#x27;t like how this particular argument is framed in such a way that it can only serve to bring the gates down once again, and equally I don&#x27;t like the fact a movie I want to see and which many people liked, has been beaten to an inch of it&#x27;s life and as far as I know doesn&#x27;t yet have a distributor.</p>
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		By: Whitey Genseric		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Whitey Genseric]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 May 2016 12:24:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&#034;Africa for Africans. Asia for the Asians. White countries for EVERYBODY?!&#034;

Everybody says there is this RACE problem. Everybody says this RACE problem will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY white country and ONLY into white countries.

The Netherlands and Belgium are just as crowded as Japan or Taiwan, but nobody says Japan or Taiwan will solve this RACE problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.

Everybody says the final solution to this RACE problem is for EVERY white country and ONLY white countries to âassimilate,â i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.

What if I said there was this RACE problem and this RACE problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into EVERY black country and ONLY into black countries?

How long would it take anyone to realize Iâm not talking about a RACE problem. I am talking about the final solution to the BLACK problem?

And how long would it take any sane black man to notice this and what kind of psycho black man wouldnât object to this?

But if I tell that obvious truth about the ongoing program of genocide against my race, the white race, Liberals and respectable conservatives agree that I am a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews.

They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-white.

Anti-racist IS a code word for anti-white.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Africa for Africans. Asia for the Asians. White countries for EVERYBODY?!&quot;</p>
<p>Everybody says there is this RACE problem. Everybody says this RACE problem will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY white country and ONLY into white countries.</p>
<p>The Netherlands and Belgium are just as crowded as Japan or Taiwan, but nobody says Japan or Taiwan will solve this RACE problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.</p>
<p>Everybody says the final solution to this RACE problem is for EVERY white country and ONLY white countries to âassimilate,â i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.</p>
<p>What if I said there was this RACE problem and this RACE problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into EVERY black country and ONLY into black countries?</p>
<p>How long would it take anyone to realize Iâm not talking about a RACE problem. I am talking about the final solution to the BLACK problem?</p>
<p>And how long would it take any sane black man to notice this and what kind of psycho black man wouldnât object to this?</p>
<p>But if I tell that obvious truth about the ongoing program of genocide against my race, the white race, Liberals and respectable conservatives agree that I am a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews.</p>
<p>They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-white.</p>
<p>Anti-racist IS a code word for anti-white.</p>
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		By: Caspar		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Caspar]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[He&#x27;s got it all wrong. I loathed &#x27;The Paperboy&#x27; when I saw it at Cannes - but it&#x27;s because I&#x27;m homophobic, not racist.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He&#x27;s got it all wrong. I loathed &#x27;The Paperboy&#x27; when I saw it at Cannes &#8211; but it&#x27;s because I&#x27;m homophobic, not racist.</p>
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		By: cinematic_high		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cinematic_high]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 May 2016 12:24:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Not liking a piece of shit film does not make you racist....I&#x27;m a black movie fan who couldn&#x27;t stand Precious...and I&#x27;m pretty sure I&#x27;d hate this too......]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not liking a piece of shit film does not make you racist&#8230;.I&#x27;m a black movie fan who couldn&#x27;t stand Precious&#8230;and I&#x27;m pretty sure I&#x27;d hate this too&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		By: Precious based on the book push by sapphire		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Precious based on the book push by sapphire]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ya&#x27;ll are most definitely not racist... just guilty of bad taste :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ya&#x27;ll are most definitely not racist&#8230; just guilty of bad taste 🙂</p>
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		By: Zack		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zack]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[I don&#x27;t think for a second that not liking &#034;The Paperboy&#034; automatically makes one racist (I snark on the Playlist a lot, but I really do respect their critical judgment 9 times out of 10, and they have successfully dissuaded me from touching it with a ten-foot pole), but I do think there&#x27;s an argument to be made that a black filmmaker (or a woman filmmaker) gets far fewer chances to fuck up than  a white male one does.  Compare how many second chances we gave someone like Woody Allen between &#034;Bullets Over Broadway&#034; and &#034;Vicky Christina Barcelona&#034; or &#034;Midnight in Paris&#034;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#x27;t think for a second that not liking &quot;The Paperboy&quot; automatically makes one racist (I snark on the Playlist a lot, but I really do respect their critical judgment 9 times out of 10, and they have successfully dissuaded me from touching it with a ten-foot pole), but I do think there&#x27;s an argument to be made that a black filmmaker (or a woman filmmaker) gets far fewer chances to fuck up than  a white male one does.  Compare how many second chances we gave someone like Woody Allen between &quot;Bullets Over Broadway&quot; and &quot;Vicky Christina Barcelona&quot; or &quot;Midnight in Paris&quot;.</p>
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		By: jimmiescoffee		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jimmiescoffee]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[this is so typical. no, this movie likely blows just as much as &#x27;precious.&#x27; if anything is &#034;racist&#034; its fawning over that film because it made white people feel like they care. sorry daniels, their are plenty of african american directors more talented (and profound) than you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is so typical. no, this movie likely blows just as much as &#x27;precious.&#x27; if anything is &quot;racist&quot; its fawning over that film because it made white people feel like they care. sorry daniels, their are plenty of african american directors more talented (and profound) than you.</p>
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		By: kris		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kris]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[personally i love precious and  he did great job with it but can anyone blame spike lee for 25th hour or steve mcqueen for hunger?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>personally i love precious and  he did great job with it but can anyone blame spike lee for 25th hour or steve mcqueen for hunger?</p>
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		By: Brett		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brett]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[Only Playlist give &#034;F&#034; ...THINGS I DON&#x27;T UNDERSTAND]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only Playlist give &quot;F&quot; &#8230;THINGS I DON&#x27;T UNDERSTAND</p>
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		By: Nolan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nolan]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[I feel like every conversation about Daniels ends up being about race.  If everyone was so racist, and only wanted to see black directors make a very specific type of film, then what is Steve McQueen doing?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel like every conversation about Daniels ends up being about race.  If everyone was so racist, and only wanted to see black directors make a very specific type of film, then what is Steve McQueen doing?</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brett]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[PLAYLIST DON&#x27;T LIKE BLACK MOVIES, BLACK ACTOR&#x27;S OR BLACK DIRECTOR&#x27;S,  I&#x27;M NOT LYING...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PLAYLIST DON&#x27;T LIKE BLACK MOVIES, BLACK ACTOR&#x27;S OR BLACK DIRECTOR&#x27;S,  I&#x27;M NOT LYING&#8230;</p>
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		By: BEF		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BEF]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[I hope this becomes similar to Sofia Coppola&#x27;s &#034;Marie Antoinette&#034; reception at Cannes.  Massively panned, but it turned out (to me) to be the best film of her career and one of the top ten movies of the last decade.  I think with minorities of women and men given so few chances that if they get an early success they are overly-scrutinized and set up for failure because they represent all of their gender or race at these esteemed festivals.  (boxofficebuz has a good point about baseball players -- the more black filmmakers and female filmmakers we put on this stage the less they will be required to be the great hope for their filmmaking community and can just make what they want). The boos at Cannes probably tempered expectations for &#034;Marie Antoinette&#034; and it was reviewed (mostly) accordingly.  I am very interested in &#034;The Paperboy&#034; and hope that critics will approach it as if they&#x27;d never read these reviews before.  It sounds like it might be akin to &#034;Black Snake Moan&#034;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope this becomes similar to Sofia Coppola&#x27;s &quot;Marie Antoinette&quot; reception at Cannes.  Massively panned, but it turned out (to me) to be the best film of her career and one of the top ten movies of the last decade.  I think with minorities of women and men given so few chances that if they get an early success they are overly-scrutinized and set up for failure because they represent all of their gender or race at these esteemed festivals.  (boxofficebuz has a good point about baseball players &#8212; the more black filmmakers and female filmmakers we put on this stage the less they will be required to be the great hope for their filmmaking community and can just make what they want). The boos at Cannes probably tempered expectations for &quot;Marie Antoinette&quot; and it was reviewed (mostly) accordingly.  I am very interested in &quot;The Paperboy&quot; and hope that critics will approach it as if they&#x27;d never read these reviews before.  It sounds like it might be akin to &quot;Black Snake Moan&quot;.</p>
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