Comments on: Discuss: After Two Flops In Six Months, What’s Next For Tim Burton?

By: Michael

Michael — Sun, 22 May 2016 03:44:16 +0000

Dark Shadows was terrible! It's really quite amazing it made as much $ as it did. As for Frankenweenie, which is charming, it's purely a victim of being released mere weeks after ParaNorman and Hotel Trans. But that's Disney's hubris for you.

I also have to place a lot of the blame on Seth Grahame-Smith. The screenplays for both AL:VH and Dark Shadows are woefully mediocre.

By: DG

DG — Sun, 22 May 2016 03:44:16 +0000

All of those developing projects so terrible, just more of the same old. Dude needs to take a few years off and reconsider what he's doing, then come back when he has something worthwhile. This is not the path he is likely to take though he should.

By: joe

joe — Sun, 22 May 2016 03:44:16 +0000

Frankenweenie is the best animation in this year.

By: Nathan

Nathan — Sun, 22 May 2016 03:44:16 +0000

Wait, which thing do you want him to do? Make blockbusters? Or serious films about human beings with only the barest production design?

Unfortunately for those who share the Oliver Lyttleton's sentiments, Tim Burton is likely just fine. Dark Shadows grossed somewhere in the region of $238 million, taking foreign markets into account, and I don't imagine Frankenweenie is expected to do a whole lot more than break even. Is there any scenario where a black and white, stop-motion film grosses more than $40 million (the production budget of the film)?

Burton seems to more or less have "tenure" with WB and Disney and it's unlikely any film "catastrophe" is going to ruin his ability to make the films he wants to.

By: cattt

cattt — Sun, 22 May 2016 03:44:16 +0000

Maybe Burton should just play it safe. For once he could do a stylish burtonized version of an existing book-, film or tv-franchise and have Johnny Depp star in it. That'll be new.

By: Padre

Padre — Sun, 22 May 2016 03:44:16 +0000

Tim Burton can do no wrong! All the yippy haters should be ignored. The box office has not smiled on him lately, but visionaries sometimes suffer for being out of tune with the market.

By: Jonathan

Jonathan — Sun, 22 May 2016 03:44:16 +0000

Burton's "Dark Shadows" flopped domestically because he turned it into a puerile, vapid, and stupid comedy. Had he gone with John August's script and not with the very awful one provided by Seth Grahame-Smith, he wouldn't have alienated a lot of the fan base of the original series. As a result, the movie was a detestable piece of S#$t. That is why it flopped at the box office. Apologists for this movie can't use the "it opened of such and such weekend" excuse. It did a belly flop because Burton and Depp took the convenient route and wound up with a $150 million dollar, two hour case of attention deficit disorder. Burton and Depp have only themselves to blame for this.

By: kitcon

kitcon — Sun, 22 May 2016 03:44:16 +0000

Alice and Clash of the Titans benefited from the public's post-Avatar fascination with 3D — and both also helped end that fascination. Without the tail wind fr Avatar neither would have done as well — as we can see w/ Wrath of the Titans and Dark Shadows. Depp is a legitimate billion $ draw in a Pirates costume but much less outside that franchise.

By: spassky

spassky — Sun, 22 May 2016 03:44:15 +0000

'Jack the Bear' remake…?

By: Angelica

Angelica — Sun, 22 May 2016 03:44:15 +0000

I really like Alice in Wonderland and Dark Shadows. I don't know why the people who don't like his movies think that he should make movies for them. That doesn't make sense. He makes movies for people who like the things that he likes. If he stopped, what would they watch?

By: jon

jon — Sun, 22 May 2016 03:44:15 +0000

What's next? How about more crap?

By: Dan

Dan — Sun, 22 May 2016 03:44:15 +0000

A couple of things,

Like it or hate it Alice in Wonderland was a huge audience winner and made a lot of mula.

Dark Shadows opened just as much as some of Burton's projects (more than Sweeney Todd and Big Fish) but it had a ridiculous high budget for some reason.

Plus Frankenweenie is stop motion and those have had a pretty poor box office returns as of lately.

Plus I doubt Tim Burton will be reading this blog. So it probably won't make much of a difference in the end.

By: aldershot

aldershot — Sun, 22 May 2016 03:44:15 +0000

he needs to stop, he needs to stop right now. never have i've ever seen an artist ruin his own name as much as burton. It would be fine if it was just his name that's being ruined, but it's not. he's tarnishing his previous successes and cult favorites with his current terrible reputation.

He needs to take a 5-10 yaer break, then maybe… MAYBE come back with a low budget passion film, as this article suggested.

as of now, if burton released a movie that is all raves from critics and friends a like, my faith in him has been crushed so much, i'd still not bother watching it.

Pay attention ladies and gent, tim burton is demonstrating exactly how to commit career suicide.

By: Moon Patrol

Moon Patrol — Sun, 22 May 2016 03:44:15 +0000

Most artists have a great deal of success in their careers. They get better as time goes on. But there is a peak for most and Burton seems to have reached that years ago. Only the real great artists keep growing. Look at Beethoven, his work was timeless up to the end of his life.

By: MaryRachelKate

MaryRachelKate — Sun, 22 May 2016 03:44:15 +0000

I need to qualify this by saying I'm a huge Tim Burton fan and no one is sicker of Johnny Depp than I am (having worked for a company that made way too many of his films). I could NOT sit through Dark Shadows. It was appallingly boring. I love the Frankenweenie short but I did not see the point in remaking it. I loved the book "Miss Peregrine's Home for Peculiar Children" and thankfully I do not think there is a role in it for Johnny Depp. However, I do not see how it could be a hit movie. I can see it being a good odd movie like Big Fish but not a hit.

By: maryrachelkate

maryrachelkate — Sun, 22 May 2016 03:44:15 +0000

*Burton's name was linked to "Pirates of the Caribbean 5"*

GOD PLEASE NO MORE! I don't care who directs it, just make it stop!

~yeah I just gave away which company I was speaking of below.

By: Candyman

Candyman — Sun, 22 May 2016 03:44:15 +0000

Burton's a quintessential example of how studio work can ruin an artist. He went from being the voice of a generation to…nothing; a maker of inconsequential, bloated CGI remakes.