Javen’t seen a shred of evidence of MGTOWs hating strong female movie characters, look forward to your evidence

“Of course i hate mysogenists and stupid “alt right” lunatics.”

I didn’t think otherwise. But my point is that calling out people who are loudly, or even rudely, denouncing groups that are blatantly oppressive, and putting them on even ground as both being part of the problem, works in the favor of the aggressors. Insubstantive insults may not be the best way to fight oppression, but equating it to bigotry and extremism is ridiculous. If (hypothetically) an extremist tells me to please get out of the country before he rounds me and mine up a for execution, and I tell him he’s a “fucking Nazi piece of shit, and then spit in his face”, it doesn’t matter how politely he spoke, or how rudely I responded. He’s still the only bigot, and the only extremist.

And when those bigots and extremists manage to take control of the government, and get more brazen about their agenda, there’s only so much that polite discourse will get you. The more you engage politely, the more normalized their platform becomes. Every resistance movement benefits from a branch that continues to negotiate and push for polite and peaceful compromise. But ultimately, pretty much every civil rights struggle in history has been powered by heavily disrespectful, angry belligerence.

Honestly? Because over the years I’ve encountered various people who have worked with her and the picture is not flattering. Suffice it to say she has some… hem… issues she likes to work out with her co-stars. And I’m just not willing to support someone like her with my film dollars. YMMV

I’ve seen a couple comments hating Theron, and i’d like to know what’s the beef against her? I’ve only seen her movies (not into any kind of hollywood gossip or anything…), and she’s one of the best actreses around, IMO. So i’m curious about why some people hate her that much.

Your (maybe prepared?) reponse is lovely, but unfortunately, not accurate, at least, not if it’s aimed at me or my comment. Please, re-read my entire comment and analyze it, and you’ll see that i wasnt defending any kind of extremism. Of course i hate mysogenists and stupid “alt right” lunatics. I’m european, we’re mostly regular, sane people around here. But people like the person i responded to are making things worse by fighting fire with fire. Not productive in any way.

Using harsh language to denounce bigotry and extremism doesn’t make one a bigot or an extremist. If a group is oppressive and unreasonable, they are the problem, regardless of how little respect their critics and victims show them in return. People who are unethically dominating others always want to focus the discussion away from ethics and towards decorum and politeness, because a presumption of ethical parity always works in their favor, while a focus on poise and politeness always works against the victims. They want us to overlook that the victim’s anger is justified while the abuser’s actions are not.

If someone wants to defend the alt right, they should do it by defending their agenda, rather than attacking the decorum of the person calling them out. It’s a civil rights battle, and as is usually the case, the right are the aggressors, which means they cede any expectation of respect.

I’d love to see the mental gymnastics you perform in order to correlate MGTOW and a dislike for female protagonists.
Draw it out for us.

Nah, that movie really suucked.

Well, while i dont like gender swapping just for the hell of it (or to appeal to a certain sector of the population, like in Ghost Busters), i have to say that, in this case, the results were golden. Fury Road was an EXCELLENT movie. And given Theron’s lead, i bet this spin-off will be very good, too.

Yeah, if only everyone you disagree with could be written off and villains, huh? Why do I get the feeling you’ve been the “good guy” in every single scenario you’ve ever been in?

Also, I can’t stand Charlize Theron as a person, but she IS the quintessential Furiosa.

By the look of things and the language you use, you are part of the problem too. Bigotry and extremism from both sides ulimately polarizes people into a black-or-white state of mind, that hurts society as a whole. Personally, i couldnt give less of a fuck about the character being a woman. Or a man. Who gives a crap.