Comments on: ‘Avatar’ 3 Min. Trailer & New Featurette Now Online https://staging2.theplaylist.net/avatar-3-min-trailer-new-featurette-now-20091029/ Tue, 10 Nov 2020 21:02:48 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.2 By: Cde. https://staging2.theplaylist.net/avatar-3-min-trailer-new-featurette-now-20091029/#comment-12187 Fri, 30 Oct 2009 22:19:10 +0000 http://theplaylist.wpengine.com/?p=5708#comment-12187 Ah, I see.
"Oh, I took a couple of Outer Limits segments…"

All in all, it's a fairly decent foundation for a case considering they're statements from the man himself.

]]> By: Jason https://staging2.theplaylist.net/avatar-3-min-trailer-new-featurette-now-20091029/#comment-12174 Fri, 30 Oct 2009 14:06:16 +0000 http://theplaylist.wpengine.com/?p=5708#comment-12174 There were two different incidents. In one he said Harlan Ellison stories, and in the other he specified Outer Limits episodes. The latter was the one for a Starlog journalist, who was convinced to excise the reference from the piece he was writing, but who relayed the information to Ellison.

]]> By: Cde. https://staging2.theplaylist.net/avatar-3-min-trailer-new-featurette-now-20091029/#comment-12168 Fri, 30 Oct 2009 11:49:53 +0000 http://theplaylist.wpengine.com/?p=5708#comment-12168 Cameron didn't name check any Outer Limits episodes. He was asked by a journalist where he got the idea for the film and he replied, 'oh, I ripped off a few Harlan Ellison stories."

]]> By: Jason Michelitch https://staging2.theplaylist.net/avatar-3-min-trailer-new-featurette-now-20091029/#comment-12165 Fri, 30 Oct 2009 11:27:15 +0000 http://theplaylist.wpengine.com/?p=5708#comment-12165 (ugh, reposted due to under caffeinated typos.)

Good clarification: the studio settled before suit was brought. That said, I've watched the episodes, and I'd say it's not a stretch at all. Plus Cameron didn't just mention he was inspired by the episodes, Ellison had two witnesses (one of them a journalist) to Cameron saying the words "I ripped off.." and namechecking not only the two Outer Limits scripts but Ellison himself. I like a bunch of Cameron's films, but it's not like he's shown himself to have any real earth-shattering or even marginally original ideas himself.

]]> By: goldfarb https://staging2.theplaylist.net/avatar-3-min-trailer-new-featurette-now-20091029/#comment-12152 Thu, 29 Oct 2009 23:52:53 +0000 http://theplaylist.wpengine.com/?p=5708#comment-12152 I agree that Cameron has never been that good at writing dialog…but it feels like this trailer is using snippets of dialog rather than full readings…as if in the trailer the lines have been cut up, pauses added etc to fit with the visuals…
and as for the Ellison thing, Cameron mentioned two Outer Limits episodes that inspired him – but if you actually watch the episodes it's quite a stretch to say that he's guilty of plagarism…
and Ellison DID NOT SUE – he threatened to sue – so they settled out of court…IMO, based on the two episodes, it's doubtful that Ellison would have won anything.

]]> By: Jason Michelitch https://staging2.theplaylist.net/avatar-3-min-trailer-new-featurette-now-20091029/#comment-12141 Thu, 29 Oct 2009 20:52:40 +0000 http://theplaylist.wpengine.com/?p=5708#comment-12141 And now that I actually click through to the linked story on the Anderson novella I see they already brought up the Ellison suit. So, um, never mind.

]]> By: Jason Michelitch https://staging2.theplaylist.net/avatar-3-min-trailer-new-featurette-now-20091029/#comment-12140 Thu, 29 Oct 2009 20:43:12 +0000 http://theplaylist.wpengine.com/?p=5708#comment-12140 Wouldn't be Cameron's first time on the plagiarism wagon. He was successfully sued by Harlan Ellison over the two episodes of "The Outer Limits" Ellison wrote that Cameron ripped off to write "The Terminator." Ellison's name is now in the credits at the end of the film on all new video versions.

]]> By: Anonymous https://staging2.theplaylist.net/avatar-3-min-trailer-new-featurette-now-20091029/#comment-12134 Thu, 29 Oct 2009 19:18:36 +0000 http://theplaylist.wpengine.com/?p=5708#comment-12134 Cameron should just release the film in 3 minute increments every week and scrap the actual opening.

]]> By: Trent https://staging2.theplaylist.net/avatar-3-min-trailer-new-featurette-now-20091029/#comment-12133 Thu, 29 Oct 2009 18:34:03 +0000 http://theplaylist.wpengine.com/?p=5708#comment-12133 Jesus christ, I was locked up with chillbumps the whole time. James Cameron is one incredible showman, so at its worst, it'll be a fun time spent at the movie theaters.

]]> By: Anonymous https://staging2.theplaylist.net/avatar-3-min-trailer-new-featurette-now-20091029/#comment-12132 Thu, 29 Oct 2009 18:06:07 +0000 http://theplaylist.wpengine.com/?p=5708#comment-12132 The movie looks hopelessly repeated, especially the dialogue and the characters. The natives look like poorly developed TV cartoons.

]]> By: Monty https://staging2.theplaylist.net/avatar-3-min-trailer-new-featurette-now-20091029/#comment-12129 Thu, 29 Oct 2009 17:47:34 +0000 http://theplaylist.wpengine.com/?p=5708#comment-12129 Well this looks decent enough…
I mean i have never liked Cameron all that much.
Aliens was ok, and T2 was great. But the rest… Mmeeehhhhh… (Yes, that's right, i thought Terminator was Meh…)

I'm sure i'll check "Avatar" out, but i don't get the hype surrounding the movie or the director…

]]> By: Anonymous https://staging2.theplaylist.net/avatar-3-min-trailer-new-featurette-now-20091029/#comment-12128 Thu, 29 Oct 2009 17:07:33 +0000 http://theplaylist.wpengine.com/?p=5708#comment-12128 It does look like a rip off of the Anderson novella. I wonder if the Anderson estate will sue. And it does look like a video game. You guys are right the dialogue is a bunch of tough guy cliches. I still can't understand why the Cameron fans are getting orgasmic about this.

]]> By: Lookf4r https://staging2.theplaylist.net/avatar-3-min-trailer-new-featurette-now-20091029/#comment-12127 Thu, 29 Oct 2009 16:54:05 +0000 http://theplaylist.wpengine.com/?p=5708#comment-12127 its a mega generic space opera plotline. It doesnt really matter if he ripped it off.

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