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		By: Outpost31		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 01:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to dkhlolm&#039;s pretentious and wordy twaddle:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The &#039;worrisome trends&#039; that you list are neither worrisome or even trends. Cronyism? It&#039;s seems it&#039;s only cronyism when you don&#039;t like the result. For example, was putting Rodrigueuz score on KB2 cronyism? Or a furthering of their collaborative friendship? Next you say &#039;essentially&#039; for no reason, &#039;inert narratives&#039; is is an oxymoron and &#039;substandard dialogue&#039; is opinion. I liked the dialogue in &#039;Death Proof&#039;. The next point is laughably overstated and wrong: &#039;a debilitating creative inhibition created by the strictures of the typical commercial film running time&#039;. Say what? Creative inhibition? From Tarantino?! And you include Death Proof in this analysis? How was this film &#039;inhibited&#039; may I ask? As for the use of music - his music selection has always been inspired. It may not be quite so in IB, but I have yet to see it. As for the criticism of Richardson, this really hammers home that you DO NOT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. He is famous for the variety of techniques he uses. Have you seen &#039;Eight Men Out&#039;? This is exactly why Tarantino hires him, because (you may have noticed) Tarantino uses a variety of styles in each of his movies. I mean, c&#039;mon, saying &#034;misplaced loyalty to technical staff who aren&#039;t really with the program&#034; is just idiotic.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Anyway I could go on (and on) but I won&#039;t. It just annoys me when people write such garbage in such a pompous way and think they&#039;re clever. But then this is the internet...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to dkhlolm&#39;s pretentious and wordy twaddle:</p>
<p>The &#39;worrisome trends&#39; that you list are neither worrisome or even trends. Cronyism? It&#39;s seems it&#39;s only cronyism when you don&#39;t like the result. For example, was putting Rodrigueuz score on KB2 cronyism? Or a furthering of their collaborative friendship? Next you say &#39;essentially&#39; for no reason, &#39;inert narratives&#39; is is an oxymoron and &#39;substandard dialogue&#39; is opinion. I liked the dialogue in &#39;Death Proof&#39;. The next point is laughably overstated and wrong: &#39;a debilitating creative inhibition created by the strictures of the typical commercial film running time&#39;. Say what? Creative inhibition? From Tarantino?! And you include Death Proof in this analysis? How was this film &#39;inhibited&#39; may I ask? As for the use of music &#8211; his music selection has always been inspired. It may not be quite so in IB, but I have yet to see it. As for the criticism of Richardson, this really hammers home that you DO NOT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. He is famous for the variety of techniques he uses. Have you seen &#39;Eight Men Out&#39;? This is exactly why Tarantino hires him, because (you may have noticed) Tarantino uses a variety of styles in each of his movies. I mean, c&#39;mon, saying &quot;misplaced loyalty to technical staff who aren&#39;t really with the program&quot; is just idiotic.</p>
<p>Anyway I could go on (and on) but I won&#39;t. It just annoys me when people write such garbage in such a pompous way and think they&#39;re clever. But then this is the internet&#8230;</p>
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		By: dkholm		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 23:43:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is a very cogent analysis of &lt;B&gt;&lt;I&gt;IB&lt;/I&gt;&lt;/B&gt;. It amounts to a general critique of Tarantino&#039;s work since &lt;I&gt;Kill Bill 2&lt;/I&gt;. It catalogs the, on the surface anyway, worrisome trends seen in both &lt;I&gt;Death Proof&lt;/I&gt; and the episode of &lt;I&gt;CSI&lt;/I&gt; he directed. In summary they are, as you have enunciated them: cronyism; essentially inert narratives mottled by substandard dialogue sequences; a debilitating creative inhibition created by the strictures of the typical commercial film running time; uninspired music selection; indulgence of actors at the expense of the totality of the film; misplaced loyalty to technical staff who aren&#039;t really with the program. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Take as an example the look of the recent films. Richardson is generally a good DP, but was his extreme one-overhead-light-source look appropriate to &lt;I&gt;KB&lt;/I&gt;, especially the more spaghetti oriented part two? Tarantino was the cinematographer of &lt;I&gt;Death Proof&lt;/I&gt;, and that film had the sun washed look appropriate for a drive in movie imitation found in &lt;I&gt;Reservoir Dogs&lt;/I&gt;, shot by Andrzej Sekula, a look that Tarantino was carefully recreating from the blaxploitation and other outsider films he was emulating. &lt;I&gt;IB&lt;/I&gt; is a &quot;spaghetti war film,&quot; and Richardson is not the sort of person destined to recreate the look of Castellari&#039;s &lt;I&gt;Inglorious Bastards&lt;/I&gt; (if that&#039;s what Tarantino wanted to do). &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Tarantino is famous for his signature long and intricate dialogue sequences. But as of &lt;I&gt;Death Proof&lt;/I&gt;, these days they are just long. It was clear what he was trying to do in that film: make the viewer intimate with both sets of girls so that their deaths or potential deaths would mean something, but also, and more important, so the viewer could see the moral difference between the vain and selfish girls of the first half and the more congenial and generous girls of the second part. The girls of the first part did not earn, in Tarantino&#039;s moral universe, the right to survive. Unfortunately, the banality of their personalities is not only intentional but too successful. It skews the film off the rails in favor of the pursuit of a larger (and theoretically interesting) framing or structural device. Paradoxically, these sorts of scenes and other parts of his scripts might be better if he made them longer, as you suggest, in a television format when he wasn&#039;t forced to impose some compression on his imagination. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I&#039;m worried that the tricks are getting tired. For example, Rod Taylor is in the film partly because he is in the great &lt;I&gt;Dark of the Sun&lt;/I&gt;, a superb example of the mission film (with an excellent score by Jacques Loussier that Tarantino perhaps should have chosen to emulate). But now it has become a marketing trick, the use of a near-forgotten actor whose career is revitalized by contact with Tarantino&#039;s golden touch (the equivalent of the &quot;Colbert Bump&quot;?). &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But maybe the film will grow on people after the full force of the promotional-industrial complex has spent itself and one can watch the movie without that sense of urgency.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a very cogent analysis of <b><i>IB</i></b>. It amounts to a general critique of Tarantino&#8217;s work since <i>Kill Bill 2</i>. It catalogs the, on the surface anyway, worrisome trends seen in both <i>Death Proof</i> and the episode of <i>CSI</i> he directed. In summary they are, as you have enunciated them: cronyism; essentially inert narratives mottled by substandard dialogue sequences; a debilitating creative inhibition created by the strictures of the typical commercial film running time; uninspired music selection; indulgence of actors at the expense of the totality of the film; misplaced loyalty to technical staff who aren&#8217;t really with the program. </p>
<p>Take as an example the look of the recent films. Richardson is generally a good DP, but was his extreme one-overhead-light-source look appropriate to <i>KB</i>, especially the more spaghetti oriented part two? Tarantino was the cinematographer of <i>Death Proof</i>, and that film had the sun washed look appropriate for a drive in movie imitation found in <i>Reservoir Dogs</i>, shot by Andrzej Sekula, a look that Tarantino was carefully recreating from the blaxploitation and other outsider films he was emulating. <i>IB</i> is a &#8220;spaghetti war film,&#8221; and Richardson is not the sort of person destined to recreate the look of Castellari&#8217;s <i>Inglorious Bastards</i> (if that&#8217;s what Tarantino wanted to do). </p>
<p>Tarantino is famous for his signature long and intricate dialogue sequences. But as of <i>Death Proof</i>, these days they are just long. It was clear what he was trying to do in that film: make the viewer intimate with both sets of girls so that their deaths or potential deaths would mean something, but also, and more important, so the viewer could see the moral difference between the vain and selfish girls of the first half and the more congenial and generous girls of the second part. The girls of the first part did not earn, in Tarantino&#8217;s moral universe, the right to survive. Unfortunately, the banality of their personalities is not only intentional but too successful. It skews the film off the rails in favor of the pursuit of a larger (and theoretically interesting) framing or structural device. Paradoxically, these sorts of scenes and other parts of his scripts might be better if he made them longer, as you suggest, in a television format when he wasn&#8217;t forced to impose some compression on his imagination. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m worried that the tricks are getting tired. For example, Rod Taylor is in the film partly because he is in the great <i>Dark of the Sun</i>, a superb example of the mission film (with an excellent score by Jacques Loussier that Tarantino perhaps should have chosen to emulate). But now it has become a marketing trick, the use of a near-forgotten actor whose career is revitalized by contact with Tarantino&#8217;s golden touch (the equivalent of the &#8220;Colbert Bump&#8221;?). </p>
<p>But maybe the film will grow on people after the full force of the promotional-industrial complex has spent itself and one can watch the movie without that sense of urgency.</p>
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		By: rodrigoperez		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 21:12:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It definitely could be a grower. It&#039;s always hard to say, but KB1 and KB2 definitely grew on me. But it&#039;s just so slow and talkie... which i suppose we knew because of the script, but reading is one thing (and everyone pretty much fucking flew through that script, such a page turner), but onscreen, it&#039;s an entirely different thing.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I appreciate the 26-minute conversation at the beginning on the page, but man, onscreen it hardly builds the tension it should. He won&#039;t touch it cause he thinks its masterful, but that sequence needs a new edit or some deep cuts.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It definitely could be a grower. It&#8217;s always hard to say, but KB1 and KB2 definitely grew on me. But it&#8217;s just so slow and talkie&#8230; which i suppose we knew because of the script, but reading is one thing (and everyone pretty much fucking flew through that script, such a page turner), but onscreen, it&#8217;s an entirely different thing.</p>
<p>I appreciate the 26-minute conversation at the beginning on the page, but man, onscreen it hardly builds the tension it should. He won&#8217;t touch it cause he thinks its masterful, but that sequence needs a new edit or some deep cuts.</p>
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		By: Tristan Eldritch		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tristan Eldritch]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 21:02:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s pretty obvious just from photographs that Eli Roth shouldn&#039;t be on front of the camera.  (Arguably he shouldn&#039;t be either side of one.) I have a funny feeling I going to like this one, but can&#039;t really say anthing till august.  I was initially dismayed by Brad Pitt in the trailer, but now what I can see of his performance really cracks me up.  Any chance that Basterds might be a grower?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s pretty obvious just from photographs that Eli Roth shouldn&#8217;t be on front of the camera.  (Arguably he shouldn&#8217;t be either side of one.) I have a funny feeling I going to like this one, but can&#8217;t really say anthing till august.  I was initially dismayed by Brad Pitt in the trailer, but now what I can see of his performance really cracks me up.  Any chance that Basterds might be a grower?</p>
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		By: stephen		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 20:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Glad you brought up Richardson&#039;s cinematography. I thought Guilleromo Navarro and Andrzej Sekula were both far better collaborators than Richardson. While obviously I haven&#039;t seen IB, I haven&#039;t been impressed by his other work with Tarantino.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad you brought up Richardson&#8217;s cinematography. I thought Guilleromo Navarro and Andrzej Sekula were both far better collaborators than Richardson. While obviously I haven&#8217;t seen IB, I haven&#8217;t been impressed by his other work with Tarantino.</p>
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