I found the annoying aspects of Theron’s over-protective “helicopter mom” character fitting and appropriate. There are times when a characterization *should* be annoying. Not only does the story deal with Kubo’s stages of grief, it’s also a Bildungsroman. Rebelling and breaking out from parental domination and control is an essential part of it. I didn’t find it particularly painful, but certainly annoying, and realized the purpose of it being annoying as it gave Kubo reason to rebel against it, and eventually break free from it.

John

Sausage Party had possibilities with its concept while it was in development, but Seth Rogen once again leaves the rails and goes utterly over the top. Perhaps it’s better characterized as under the bottom, down somewhere well below the sewers, below even the whale dung that sinks into the Marianas Trench.

John

if you say so MadMeme second account. Using Trump in your argument… Classy

You come across as a nob, desperate to have the last word and your Trump-esque claim to hold a majority viewpoint on this film really does not help your case.

lol

Since you don’t seem to understand logical fallacies, I suggest Google.

Yes, I and the hundreds of people that helped get Kubo it’s 50 nominations and it’s 27 wins (more than Coraline and ParaNorman combined) will continue to think it was a wonderful piece of script-writing, while you can continue thinking it wasn’t.

so much facepalm

argumentum ad. hahhahahahahahaha omg. You are so off base.

Go on living your life thinking this was a wonderful piece of script writing. I really could care less.

Taking shots at you? That’s simply the type of response you’re likely to elicit when you reply to other people’s comments with an argumentum ad verecundiam; i.e. “I work in the industry…” So what? I started working at an SFX house in Hollywood before I’d even finished my degree at CalArts – and won an Emmy for Special Visual Effects before I was 27 – but it’s not something I bring up in conversation unless I’m specifically discussing those topics.

And just because I don’t agree with your opinion, doesn’t make it a non-valid opinion to you. It’s meaningless as critique because, again, it’s unsupported by arguments and examples, and disconnected from an analysis of it’s relevance to the broader goals and purposes of the film – so it never rises above the strictly subjective, In other words, you say, “I think the script writing for C.Theron’s character/dialogue really hurt this.” and I say it didn’t.

Two opposing opinions simply ends up being meaningless.

yes, I’m a TD in the vfx and animation industry with—yes, a background in Film. You can disagree with me all you want, you are entitled to that.

Taking shots at me doesn’t make you right. Just because you don’t agree with my opinion, doesn’t make it a non-valid critique. I’ve had 20 years of training in the arts, and feel no need to prove anything to you. Laughing at your certainty. You don’t know anything about me other than what I’ve let you know. If you want to categorize my thoughts on the film as internet banter, so be it. I could just as easily say you have no idea what the hell you’re talking about.

Look, there was amazing work done as always from the artists at Laika. Stuff like this https://vimeo.com/201802102 takes a tremendous amount of skill and dedication to craft.

Here, I will make it easy on ya. Kubo was amazing. Fantastic all the way through.

You work in the industry? Really? Did you actually go to a film school? Because if you did, you missed the course on critical analysis.

“I think the script writing for C.Theron’s character/dialogue really really hurt this. It was almost painful to listen to…”

This is the kind of reductive, subjective opinion that is both irrelevant – and rampant online (where the majority of people don’t know the difference between opinion and critique). Despite your assurances, I’m quite certain you missed quite a lot of it conceptually.

OTOH, feel free to explain the symbolism of the damaged and missing eyes to prove me wrong.

“crowning masterwork” and “minority”… I work in the industry, and live in Portland.

Those two statements seal the discussion for me.

Well, then you’re in a minority, since virtually every reviewer of the film (even the one here) appeared to forget that the entire movie is a story told by a little boy about overcoming his grief. In any case, I disagree completely with your ranking – it’s Laika’s crowning masterwork (and possibly their last).

to be more specific, I think the script writing for C.Theron’s character/dialogue really really hurt this. It was almost painful to listen to, and redundant to the point of annoyance in her over protective role. Flat out, it was just a poorly written script for large chunks of the film.

I didn’t miss anything conceptually about it. Conceptually it has a nice story, but felt like there were too many elements that sort of ruined that for me. Artistically, it has wonderful aspects, but as a whole I think it fell short from being as successful as their earlier films. Just don’t feel like it was their best work on multiple fronts.

Kubo was simply brilliant; both artistically and conceptually. Unfortunately, many people missed the larger meaning of the fable: an allegory about losing both parents, symbolically working through the 5 stages of grief, and learning to accept a new life with one’s grandparent (suffering from dementia).

Kubo really wasn’t very good to be honest, and I usually love Laika. They seem to be going downhill in my opinion since Coraline and paraNorman.

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